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Pajka Sat 08 October 2011 14:23

Machine now cutting!....Seahorses! - Skopje,Macedonia
 
First greetings to all,
otherwise I'm from Macedonia and I want to publicly praise Danilo # 64 and say that he is the man who encouraged me to try to make MM.
Thank you Danilo.
Building on my machine are likely longer than what we're used to seeing here on the forum because of my engagement in the workplace.However I will try not to last forever and normal to share the experience with you.Just to mention that I have sufficient knowledge in this area and hopefully help and suggestions from you guys.
P.S.If I'm wrong somewhere in writing this is because I never studied English.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
See you soon hopefully.

KenC Sun 09 October 2011 03:46

Welcome!
Take your time to build. With Danilo in your neighbourhood, you can't go wrong :)

Pajka Sun 09 October 2011 09:00

Thank you Ken.
Here are the first purchased parts needed for my adventure(at this point I'm scared to tell you for my MM so I will call this my adventure because I do not have enough knowledge in this area ):o
I know that house is not built from the roof but I had to start somewhere and even from the roof.:)
I bought two pieces ABB VFD because planning to put two Z axes in the Y trolley.

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...type=3&theater

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...type=3&theater

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...type=3&theater

These days I plan to purchase by DEITECH two spindles DTS-23 2,2KW.
Ask for opinion?:confused:

Pajka Sun 09 October 2011 11:45

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I learned how to attach photos:)
I think this is better.
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KenC Sun 09 October 2011 23:26

Go for 3KW if your budget allows.

Pajka Fri 14 October 2011 15:44

Ken,do you think that 2.2kw not enough for processing of aluminum composite panels with 4mm thick?

smreish Fri 14 October 2011 20:28

Should be fine.....2.2Kw should do that easily. My 1.5HP router does.

KenC Sun 16 October 2011 05:19

For Aluminium composite, that should be enough.

Pajka Sun 15 January 2012 04:35

My Waterjet Cut and Bent Parts finally arrived.Will post the pics very soon.
Currently I have a dilemma and seek advice.
Ordering engines DEITECH series model 86HS9802 (http://www.driver-motor.com/ProductContent.aspx?ID=47) 2.4mH and ask for advice on which driver to decide DM556 or DM856 (http://www.driver -motor.com/ProductList.aspx? CID = 5).
Will anyone help guys about this?

Pajka Sun 19 February 2012 06:13

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Problems starting now,
see just how awry.
one he rolled it certain that he was drunk or first time doing this.

Pajka Sun 19 February 2012 06:19

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Here are all parts and all that are bent must to intervene or to correct them.:mad:

Pajka Sun 19 February 2012 06:22

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Here's what happens these days:)

Pajka Sun 19 February 2012 06:23

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more:)

Pajka Sun 19 February 2012 06:25

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& more;)

Pajka Sun 19 February 2012 06:27

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finally arrived and shipping from DEITECH CHINA

Pajka Sun 19 February 2012 06:33

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back problems, 200/75mm DIN standard deformed to maximum and I forced myself to dig up the snow and find some better.
(that's our kind sellers):mad::mad::mad:

Pajka Sun 19 February 2012 06:34

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welding base table,
And who would have turned upside down now this monster,:D

MetalHead Sun 19 February 2012 07:41

Great progress pics !! Keep up the great work !!

Pajka Sun 19 February 2012 08:13

Thanks Mike.

Pajka Sun 19 February 2012 08:35

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Bushings and V Bearings made and strengthened (tempered).

Pajka Sun 19 February 2012 10:16

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No loctite.

TechGladiator Sun 19 February 2012 10:27

Nicely done !!

Pajka Sun 11 March 2012 13:05

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Snow has less candle so we decided to get out to paint.I decided tell to you more through the pictures then through talking (due to my poor knowledge of English language):o

Pajka Sun 11 March 2012 13:12

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Work are flowing

Pajka Sun 11 March 2012 13:18

If you are wondering why I do not have any photos of my V rails it is because the subject has eaten my nerves.
In the end I was happy with 0.3mm tolerance.

Pajka Sun 11 March 2012 13:20

Нека каже некој ве молам дека е 0.3мм како што треба.
Ќе ми значи многу.:)

Pajka Sun 11 March 2012 14:21

Opsss-translate
Let somebody please tell that the 0.3mm tolerance for V rails is OK.
I'll mean a lot

timberlinemd Sun 11 March 2012 19:52

If your saying you have a .3mm tolerance in height (.0118") then shim with soda can strips. If between rails loosen bolts and adjust with a mallet.

JamesJ Sun 11 March 2012 20:20

Pajka
The link below describes a straightforward way to align your rail height and straightness.

http://www.mechmate.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3440

Pajka Mon 12 March 2012 12:17

Thanks guys.

Pajka Sun 06 May 2012 11:18

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Again working on the case

Pajka Sun 06 May 2012 11:22

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double Z

javeria Mon 07 May 2012 05:40

2 Z is pretty cool

smreish Mon 07 May 2012 05:43

#58 is like that too. 2 z's, 2x the fun!

obuhus Sat 12 May 2012 12:34

How you the plan to operate 2 axes z under Mach3? It will be analog of ATC?

Pajka Mon 14 May 2012 13:04

Dear Dmitry,
my knowledge in this area are not great and that is one reason that my building goes so slow. I decided to finish all mechanical parts and then to devote to me unknown part of this adventure (electronics and Mach3).Making the machine primarily for cutting and grooving of aluminum composite panels(wall cladding).It is a process that is difficult to operate manually and due to high prices of CNC routers decided without much knowledge of this issue to try to do something that makes our job easier.Processing of aluminum composite panels are mainly used two cutters (cutting and grooving) and so I decided to be 2 Z axes.I am aware that Mach3 can control up to 2 Z axis (or I'm wrong).Thank you and all of you on the forum from which we(ignorant) can learn a lot.Rarely can there be such a good site as MECHMATE forum and also good people who are responsible for maintaining it.If I understand you, do you want to tell me that I have even the option of choosing a method of management of both Z axes.I hope you will help me in this part of the building to me unknown.Thanks in advance.

Axel1966 Mon 14 May 2012 14:09

Hi Pajka.
Your two spindles won't be able to run at the same time, anyway.
Through, the G-code generation might be a real problem, IMO.
Just a think : what about a simple tool changer ?
It might be less expensive than a double Z, and very easy to manage with any software.
The time spent in tool changing is not that much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyOeBSMyiAw

Pajka Mon 14 May 2012 14:39

Axel,
first spindle will cut and second one will V-groove.It is not possible to do that at the same time,I know that.My idea was to not waste time to change cutters for any sheet loaded on the machine.I hope that Im not wrong with construction(my idea was:first to groove and after that to cut parts with second spindle.)Can you confirm whether this is possible?

Axel1966 Mon 14 May 2012 15:26

Well, i'm far to be a specialist.
Some machines have two toolheads, but mounted on the same Z axis.
(A spindle and a Plasma, for example).
Some other machines have duplicate Z axis (to cut several boards at the same time),
it's just duplicating an axis with an offset.

With two Z axis, i guess the problem might be to generate comprehensible g-code
with conventional software.
You're exploring something undone yet.
That does not mean it's impossible to do.
Just you will have no source to refer on, and you'll walk alone in the dark.

With an automatic tool changer, changing a tool will take maybe 10-15 seconds waisted.
It is not an important factor in a production environment.
You can spend much more time in loading and unloading your table.

Most of the best production machines have a tool changer.
I can't remember any example with a two Z axis technology.
Any software can manage the tool changing abilities in two clics.
And your needs may change from two tools to 3 or more in future applications.

I appreciate you have already bought and mount two Z axis. :(
But i'm affraid you'll face more problems than solutions this way.
(Don't forget the second Z is valuable and can be sold...)

Maybe I'm wrong, if anyone have a fast solution to your problem, he will talk.
If you have no awnser in this way, you'll have to solve the problem by yourself.

baseball43v3r Mon 14 May 2012 17:56

I think it would be pretty easy to cut a profile and then v-groove with a dual head. first cut out with your profile head, raise that head, center in and lower your v-groove head, 0 out your axis's and cut the same pattern with a v-groove? I'm sure you'll have to do some tinkering to get the precise location of the first head, but if you measure the distance between the two heads to a precise amount, you can move the router that amount and get a pretty accurate location.


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