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javeria Sun 03 January 2010 09:06

Problems in 2d cuts
 
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Does anyone know why I am getting this sort of cuts?

I upgraded my Z with linear slides and yet face this problem??

it is solved to a large extent - but

is it the curves in the artwork, or do I need to use a different post processor,

or is it that I need to convert the curves to some sort of continuous curves???

or do i need a different Mach setting???

please help me.

RGDS
Irfan

jessyjames Sun 03 January 2010 09:14

Not too sure what is going on there. I seemed to have that problem at one time but it slips my memory.

What software are you using? Sometimes when I import stuff from Autocad into Aspire, Autocad will creat a bunch of little nodes around curves. I then have to have Aspire smooth the curves with one of its features..

But I think your problem lies in Mach if that is what you are using. All your curves lines are just too symmetrical to be a hardware problem, at least that is what I see. Seems like you need to check your "CV" settings in mach.

I will keep on thinking about what might be the prob.

James

javeria Sun 03 January 2010 09:17

May be CV setting in mach - i am thinking of same thing James, what is your CV setting?

I am using Artcam, what utility do you use in Aspire for curve fixing? yes the curve was imported from Acad.

hennie Sun 03 January 2010 10:00

Irfan, I had the same thing on the little disks that I did recently.It also baffeled me I eventually enlarged the drawing on the screen of my dxf file and saw that it was actually the drawing itself that had those ridges on them, it is not your MM that is the problem but the actual vectors that the toolpath follows.Enlarge that same drawing a couple of times where it gives you the rough cut and see if it is that.

javeria Sun 03 January 2010 10:41

Thanks Hennie - i will look into it soon

Kobus_Joubert Sun 03 January 2010 11:03

I noticed this sometimes when using a 12mm straight cutter and pushing it to cut 2mm per pass at a high feedrate. My whole table starts to vibrate and it seems that the router on the z-slide starts to oscillate. When I slow things down and take a 1 to 1.5mm deep cut it dissapears.

Gerald D Sun 03 January 2010 11:45

Irfan, did you notice that the rough cut is only when the X and Y motors run together to make a curve? If so, then see Rough Cut on Diagonal

mikefoged Sun 03 January 2010 14:01

Can you please post a pic of your settings for Mach3, I like to see how your CV settings are.

DMS Sun 03 January 2010 17:30

Irfan,

Try to spline vectors and delete extra nodes.

javeria Tue 12 January 2010 10:13

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one more of the Jali's

vishnu Tue 12 January 2010 11:12

Nice Work Buddy, keep going..............

Kobus_Joubert Tue 12 January 2010 11:23

I think I need to visit India...looks like you have some nice wood available. Nice going

domino11 Tue 12 January 2010 11:25

Irfan, Very Very Nice. :)

Castone Tue 12 January 2010 12:41

As always , very good work. Keep them coming I really enjoy looking at them.

javeria Tue 12 January 2010 20:04

Ah Kobus, thats pieces of teak wood joined together to form a plank -

heath - vishnu and Leo - thanks for the good words !

hennie Tue 12 January 2010 20:29

I like it when you do those jobs, make me want to make some doors with them:)good work Irfan.We need to win the lotto to afford teak in SA.

Gerald D Tue 12 January 2010 21:43

Nice work Irfan. Did you find the reason for the rough cuts you mentioned with the earlier pictures?

javeria Tue 12 January 2010 22:33

G' I seem to have not set my machine upto the mark - i need to look into it further,

meanwhile does anyone have the model 99474(running horse) from 3d model club, it was given out last year as a free sample, the one I have has a corrupted zip file

hennie Wed 13 January 2010 01:39

show us a example if you can

javeria Wed 13 January 2010 02:26

http://www.3dmodelclub.com/component...0596437283.jpg

this one oops its 99473

sailfl Wed 13 January 2010 03:07

Irfan,

You have mail.

javeria Fri 22 January 2010 13:23

some more jali shapes
 
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here is what we did with the jali shapes - its a pulpit for a mosque . yet to receive polishing - will have a matt finish.

KenC Fri 22 January 2010 22:32

Beautiful!

Kobus_Joubert Fri 22 January 2010 22:37

Magic, but I still want to know how to make that WHITE stuff. If it is a trade secret so be it....but PM me then:D

javeria Sat 23 January 2010 01:14

its called white metal paste here and gets mixed with a hardner (gp resin+chalk powder)d

KenC Sat 23 January 2010 01:16

Irfan, what is the purpose of the paste? Would you show us the finished?

javeria Sat 23 January 2010 01:17

the paste is the white color you look as a inlay in the v carving on the jali

KenC Sat 23 January 2010 01:34

Interesting, does it contain metal? or it is how they are commonly known as?

digger Sat 23 January 2010 06:36

Some interesting reading regarding inlays:

http://www.woodsmith.com/issues/173/...n-epoxy-inlay/

KenC Sat 23 January 2010 20:02

Thanks Milosh. Its really interesting read. I can see modern tech slowly creeps into wood working procedure.

student1616 Sun 24 January 2010 20:17

good work.
whats the tool u used for this work.imean carbide or MS and its size and type(engraving tip or endmill).
and the site u posted before craftsmanspace.com providing Autocad drawing.how did u convert that in to Gcode.

sailfl Mon 25 January 2010 03:09

GCode is convert with the use of a CAM software program.

student1616 Mon 25 January 2010 09:37

program like....?
i know mastercam.but its bit difficult to operate.is there any tool which is for hobby ppl level with good features

javeria Fri 05 February 2010 09:28

some more of jali work
 
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some more of the jali work, this time on 30 mm thick mdf, sure the cutting bit makes a racket now!

G' how deep can you drive a 6mm 2 flute endmill in mdf and at what feed rate? i am currently going with 6mm deep per pass at around 2500mm/min

javeria Fri 05 February 2010 09:29

4th axis
 
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and here is what I have to build my 4th axis attachment :)

Gerald D Fri 05 February 2010 10:59

Irfan, I think my son would do 4 passes to get through 30mm MDF with a 6mm bit. The speed for that job sounds about right.

On doing 4 passes, the trick is to do the 4th (last) pass with a slightly smaller offset, so that it cleans the marks left by the previous passes. Some guys do the first passes climb cut direction and the last pass conventional to get the same clean-up effect.

Claudiu Fri 05 February 2010 12:31

Irfan, what is your cv setting in mach? why don`t you get rounded corners at that beautyful jali work? Please tell me your secret...thanks for the mail.

student1616 Fri 05 February 2010 20:59

still waiting for your reply reading the type of G-code generation program you guys use.
iam quite impressed with the work done on the MDF.

Kobus_Joubert Fri 05 February 2010 21:35

Looks like that 4th axis is on it's way.

KenC Fri 05 February 2010 22:46

How would you handle the potential backlash?


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