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cab. guy Mon 18 January 2010 11:23

Nils, I think you are on to something.Can you remember if the cuts were worse in the x-axis vs the y-axis?

sailfl Mon 18 January 2010 11:35

Ron,

It will improve the cuts in any direction if you can remove the small straight lines that happen when you work with curves from some drawing packages.

Sorry, if I misunderstood but I also wanted to make it clear that I am no longer having a problem. I also fix the little lines on curves.

Gerald D Mon 18 January 2010 11:47

Years ago I complained to Mach that their program couldn't maintain a constant speed from the end of one line segment to the beginning of the next, even if those two line segments are perfectly in one straight line. It is worse on curves. See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mach1m.../message/57947

cab. guy Mon 18 January 2010 22:31

Mr.Gerald D,If you would indulge me, I would be honored.If a machine in question fallows G-code output provided by design,cad and control software in a perfect world ,is it not doing exactly what It was designed to do? If however that machine deviates its commands or instructions, is it also reasonable to ask why?When I see Nils photo #1 , it appears to have
a type of chatter that was a result of a straight cut.In g-code that would be a straight line,to a machine ,should that command not be recognized as a simple movement from point A to point B without interruption.This is the part that is interesting-Who done it?

sailfl Tue 19 January 2010 01:33

Ron,

That cut is the cause of the machine not working correctly.

If you take a curved line and look at it in a cad program that line will look like it is one single line going from point A to point B but taking a curved path. If you continue to zoom in on that line you might find that the curved line is not actually a single curved line but is actually made up of lots of small straight line segments. These small straight line segments are what will cause the cut to not be straight. That is why when you get your curved line into your cam software you have to smooth out the line. That smoothing process will remove most of the small straight lines and will give you a curved line.

Those small straight line segments are the problem.

isladelobos Tue 19 January 2010 08:07

This makes perfect sense.
The files must be clean and tailored, this process can be heavy, if the file is from the outside or is designed by third parties.
With Corel Draw is very easy with its node reduction tool.
If I can, and find time, I will prepare a short tutorial to make that easy.

Tiene mucha lógica.
Los archivos hay que limpiarlos y adaptarlos, este proceso se puede hacer pesado, si el archivo proviene del exterior o está diseñado por terceras partes.
Con Corel Draw es muy fácil, con su herramienta de reducción de nodos.
Si puedo, y encuentro tiempo, prepararé una pequeña tutoría para hacerlo fácilmente.

cab. guy Tue 19 January 2010 09:27

Nils, I was referring to the diagonal cut in photo 1#. I missed Geralds post#3 in explanation.Ill try this on .75 mdf and aspire,but Geralds statement does sound reasonable.If I understand him correctly Mach3 has speed change issues between 2 competing axises.

domino11 Tue 19 January 2010 11:25

Nils, how do you do the smoothing?

Kobus_Joubert Tue 19 January 2010 12:21

Aspire and V-Carve Pro can also do SMOOTHING.

sailfl Tue 19 January 2010 13:18

Heath,

I think most cam programs have smoothing functions that help with the process. I have also redrawn the lines using a cad program.

MetalHead Wed 20 January 2010 06:32

This is just another thing to show how accurate these machines are. They cut EXACTLY what they are told to cut. I have seen this in my other drawing programs for Plasma. Corel is notorious for making a arc that has dozens of points in them.

Basically the higher quality drawing programs can see these points as an arc and remove all those "Stop" points along the way making a true arc for the machine to cut.

Great find Nils on figuring that out.

isladelobos Sat 23 January 2010 09:22

This is a small, and simple tutorial on how to reduce nodes with Corel Draw. Mp4 and Zip


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