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Gerald D Thu 26 June 2008 23:01

That bracket looks quite nice in real life. :)

Are you using the 1bolt+2dowels attachment at the back? That hasn't been spoken about for ages, and I guess most people don't realise why there are those odd holes in the z-slide. More pics of this would be appreciated - if applicable.

Kobus_Joubert Fri 27 June 2008 00:06

Thats right just like you designed it boss...one bolt from he back to take it apart. The 2 dowels are actually two M6 x 10 C/S grub screws...countersunk from the front. Sorry my cellphone camera is not the right tool for more detail.

Kobus_Joubert Sat 28 June 2008 10:49

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Between some house and garden work I did manage to play with old BBB today. Main thing was to get the table straight....this was done with a 25mm bit...two passes and it was FLAT.

Then I tried various programs and ended up with V-Carve 2D....found this by far the easiest to understand. Late in the afternoon I did the Gear example that comes with the program. I was amazed by the fine detail that I was able to cut...that small gear is about 22mm in diameter..clean as a whistle....done on 3mm MDF.

Also found a easy way to FACE a rough block of wood that I have cut from a tree a while back....this thing was as skew as ...I don't know what.

It's nice to see all the wood chips in the workshop...THANKS Gerald and fellow forum friends.:)

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Alan_c Sat 28 June 2008 10:54

Good to see your machine christened with dust - goed gedaan.

ps you are a day late :D ref Monday post #134

Greg J Sat 28 June 2008 11:15

Kobus,

Congratulations !!!

It's a good feeling, isn't it. :)

Gerald D Sat 28 June 2008 12:24

That's the first report we have of direct drive Motion King motors cutting wood. Watching these "affordable" motors very closely . . . .

hennie Sat 28 June 2008 23:10

Nice Kobus!

Did you surface the table with a filler applied to the mdf?and if so what did you use?

domino11 Sun 29 June 2008 08:34

Congratulations Kobus,
Those gears look great. Keep us informed on how those inexpensive motors are working for you. Are there any plans for using JRs belt reduction scheme? :)

Lex Sun 29 June 2008 22:31

Congraltulations.
The machine seems to run smoothly.

Kobus_Joubert Sun 29 June 2008 23:04

Hi there all, thanks for reading my progress. Every day I learn more and more and it is such a GOOD feeling.

Hennie, my base is a 19mm plywood. I just got my 25mm bit into the router...set it up on the left hand side... jog down to touch the board and rode the gantry up and down, up and down to the right hand side.. dropped the z-axis a bit and jogged it back up and down the length of the table to the left hand side again....Suppose I could have done a little g-code to do it, but doing it manually, i could SKIM it bit for bit until it was flat.

Heath: The idea is to cut out the parts for a reduction system with old BBB if...I say If I need it. At the moment I am still getting to grips with a lot of theory and practice on the machine. Cutting so far is not bad...pretty good even if I say so myself..but as I learn more and more, I might just add the reduction.

Johan, Thanks for the help the other day. I am amazed by the fine detail that you can do with such a BIG machine. I think that if your cut / feedrate is correct, you can get very good work done.

Kobus_Joubert Thu 03 July 2008 23:12

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Things that I am learning....

I tried to cut a pocket on a slab of wood. Set up a nice rectangle, told it to cut it out 2 mm deep. Started up and WHAT !!...this thing did not cut on my lines. CAM show rectangle, Mach show rectangle, but on MACH the actual cut is more like an old propeller...see the photo. After supper went back to tame the beast and realised that my acceleration and velocity settings could be wrong. When jogging from the keyboard this thing would take off build up some speed...when you let the arrow on the keyboard go it took time for the mass to come to a standstill, and this is what was wrong. I adjusted the acc. and velocity setup's and now I get a perfect rectangle.
Other people with non gearbox steppers ....what are your setting on the acceleration and velocity ?

The second picture is playing around with cutters en pictures. For small engraving things like this I really need smaller / finer cutters.

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Gerald D Fri 04 July 2008 00:13

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I am amazed by the fine detail that you can do with such a BIG machine. I think that if your cut / feedrate is correct, you can get very good work done.
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For small engraving things like this I really need smaller / finer cutters.
Actually you really need much smaller table with ballscrews and fine reductions. You are trying to use a tractor as a bridal car! :D

Kobus_Joubert Fri 04 July 2008 00:45

Well this TRACTOR is a joy to have. I am only playing on small pieces to LEARN the ropes. If I understand everything it will be let out of it's cage to go and cut the BIG things...Front doors, room dividers big signs etc.

hennie Fri 04 July 2008 00:46

Een MM te koop dalk?:)

Gerald D Fri 04 July 2008 01:06

Nee, 'n tweede kleiner een om te bou!

hennie Fri 04 July 2008 01:43

Ja, as ek dit nie verkeerd het nie maak `n boer `n plan.Kobus geniet jou breek lyk my dit is nodig.

Lex Fri 04 July 2008 01:46

How does those Motion kings holding up!
Sing hulle soprano:)
It looks like that I will be going that route as well.:cool:
It was a pleasure helping you with that small dxf. Shout if there is anything else.

hennie Fri 04 July 2008 02:00

Johan wat gaan jy gebruik Motion king of Fulling?

Gerald D Fri 04 July 2008 02:03

Ek trek sy been oor 'n tweede masjien

Kobus_Joubert Fri 04 July 2008 02:08

I am happy with what I have...and PROUD.... you have to kill me to take it away from me. Steppers are doing what they should .... as good as my Chinese GWM bakkie.

hennie Fri 04 July 2008 02:20

Right My China!:)

Alan_c Mon 07 July 2008 05:06

Kobus

What have you done regarding the cable chain? I dont see any pics of your set-up, did you get from your local supplier at the good price as mentioned before? What is the lengths of your cables as finally assembled?

ps - Sorry for the loss over the weekend :p, now we are on the same position on the log :D

Kobus_Joubert Tue 08 July 2008 04:16

Just had to have a quick look at the forum via Black Berry in the lounge at the lodge. No signal at the cabin. Will feedback on Friday night when I get home.

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Kobus

What have you done regarding the cable chain? I dont see any pics of your set-up, did you get from your local supplier at the good price as mentioned before? What is the lengths of your cables as finally assembled?

ps - Sorry for the loss over the weekend :p, now we are on the same position on the log :D

Kobus_Joubert Fri 11 July 2008 13:45

Hi there, I am back, rested and ready to get to BBB tomorrow....after doing some work in and around the house. Was also told/instructed by the BOSS today to get on and build her Glass Fusing and Slumping Kiln now that I have my TOY.

Wel I did go and play with different CAM software and in the end decided to go for Cut2D from Vectric. Very easy to use and understand, the price is right and I am sure that it will do what I want it to do for a while.

Alan, when I got the quote for the cable chain I was not ready to jump in and build my machine. By the time I got to that stage, the price whent up by 3. So what I did, I bundled the cables together, screwed plastic anchors about half way into the beams and used cable ties to get them on the machine. The X-Axis DRAGS on the ground where nobody walks and on the Y I made some sort of BASKET where the cables can wind and unwind. Will try and get some pictures tomorrow.

Alan_c Fri 11 July 2008 15:48

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Alan, when I got the quote for the cable chain I was not ready to jump in and build my machine. By the time I got to that stage, the price went up by 3.
Hell, doesn't that burn your a*se, that's just plain profiteering and they will probably blame it on the oil price or the Rand - Euro exchange, not that either one of those rose by 300% :mad::mad::mad: At least you have come right with a work around. The steel price is just as aggravating, my actual cost has doubled from my original quotes of one year ago and if I dont get the remaining steel before the end of the month it goes up by another 12%.

Anyway, on to happier thoughts, how was the fishing, any good bites?

hennie Fri 11 July 2008 23:01

Welkome back!
You must let mummy post on the forum.My Boss is to scared.

Ja, Alan I had the same thing with the steel.I would say if someone starts building they need to get the steel first and put it in storage.I had it within a month the price was nearly R 1000 more.

Gerald D Sat 12 July 2008 00:19

We have just come out of a boom economic period, where sales & turnover was high and companies made good profits. Now that sales have fallen off drastically, the accountants are trying to figure out how to make the same profits off the smaller volumes, or lose their jobs . . . . . and everyone's prices go crazy. :mad:

Kobus_Joubert Sun 13 July 2008 07:15

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I am so glad BBB is finished...sort off...price of steel , exchange rate etc forgotten for a while. This weekend I had to put a new door between the flatlet and the house. Thought it would be great to see BBB do something bigger. This floral design and edge took less than 5 minutes to cut. Did pick up that my table is not 100% flat anymore...I moved it a few times to do some work on it after flattening the bed and I know that the floor is not 100% level.

The other pictures are for Alan to show my improvised cable chain setup.

Gerald, I find he settings for X and Y (9000) a bit high. Going down to 5000 it gave me better results...this I see when engraving text. At 9000 the ARIEL looks completely different. At 5000 it is nice and square.

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normand blais Sun 13 July 2008 08:40

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Nice machine Mr Joubert
I wanted to show my improvised cable setup . I put all the cable inside a vaccum hose and the extention for the power to the router is tied on the side. The hose fit nicely in a 2X3 metal stud actually the tract used for drywall .It will protect the cables from rubbing on metal .I did the same for the dust collecting system. This was to be temporary but never got around to change it for the last 4 years
Normand

Kobus_Joubert Sun 13 July 2008 11:47

That is also a great idea..when I install my dust system I might just get a meter or so extra for this.

Kobus_Joubert Sun 13 July 2008 11:56

Anybody out there with some GLASS KILN building experience ? Since this forum is so full of people with wonderful ideas and help to each other, I thought I can only ask.:o

Greg J Sun 13 July 2008 16:10

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Was also told/instructed by the BOSS today to get on and build her Glass Fusing and Slumping Kiln now that I have my TOY.
Kobus,

My wife wants to make "stuff" / "slumping", along with some stain glass art.

Are you building a kiln from the ground up?? If you are, I might be building one also. Not too sure I want to be building something that reaches temperature around 1200 to 2,000 deg. F. :eek:

Have your "Boss" send my "Boss" a pm. :)

normand blais Mon 14 July 2008 04:18

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Some wooden belt buckles I made for a young artist . She does beatifull glass work . She will pick up some more today or so ,if you have some questions I could ask her. http://noujica.blogspot.com/ her web site .

Kobus_Joubert Mon 14 July 2008 06:39

Hi Greg, the idea is to build one from scratch. I have the RAMP controller already and have some info, but still looking for more information on design and building of a kiln that will do the job.

Thanks for the photo Normand, but I am more interested in the design and building of the Kiln itself. My wife does the glass work, but always relied on the studio's for the fusing and slumping part.

Lex Fri 18 July 2008 04:50

Kobus,
Did you use the original motor laser profile mounting plates as shown on Gerald's drawings for the Motion kings, or did you profile cut new plates?

Kobus_Joubert Fri 18 July 2008 05:48

Both are on the drawings. Geared and straight. I first had the geared motor plates cut, then later the standard ones.

Gerald D Fri 18 July 2008 06:02

Lex, you need 3 off M5 10 312 and 1 off M5 10 322 for the MotionKings

kaartman Sun 20 July 2008 10:49

Hi kobus
stuur vir my jou e-pos adres asseblief, myne is [email protected] or please send me your email address, regards

Kobus_Joubert Sun 20 July 2008 22:38

Done

hennie Wed 23 July 2008 23:02

Did you come right with the pipes for the extraction?

Prices that I got from supplier in George was.

85 mm od R 93 excl.
110mm od R 102 excl.
125 mm od R 110 excl.


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