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IMMark Sat 17 May 2014 16:20

Well, that didn't go well :o
The pictures seem to open up fine in a new tab. Let me know if I need to do something another way?
Also, sorry for poor pictures and messy shop. I recently have been moving things around since a 75 square foot chunk of space just got occupied :)
Mark

rcboats1 Sat 17 May 2014 17:23

Looking good.

Use the insert image button and paste the URL in the popup box.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps3e9e1977.jpg

IMMark Sat 17 May 2014 17:29

Thanks Kelly...the help continues :)

IMMark Sat 17 May 2014 19:04

Just in case video proof is needed....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHq9i3OI5ho

Again, apologies for poor video skills and messy shop (work in progress).

Mark

dbinokc Sat 17 May 2014 19:20

Looks good. Congrats on the successful build and cut.

jhiggins7 Sat 17 May 2014 19:54

Nice going Mark. Looks like Serial Number time.:)

IMMark Sun 18 May 2014 07:39

Thanks DB & John....already life this machine, and I feel like I am just scratching the surface!
Mark

parrulho Sun 18 May 2014 13:24

Well done Mark, nice machine. Good luck!

IMMark Sun 18 May 2014 14:07

Thank you Paulo...I can't wait to put a number after my name :cool:
Mark

Tom Ayres Mon 19 May 2014 03:43

It magically appears, congrats!

IMMark Mon 19 May 2014 07:41

Thanks Tom...no number yet, but I check back frequently :)
By the way, did you change the thread heading? I've wanted to do that for quite some time (I have been finished with X rail and gantry questions for a while)?
Mark

Tom Ayres Mon 19 May 2014 08:44

No, you crazy? they'd never give me admin access! Good thing too, I'd have titles with no relevance.

IMMark Mon 19 May 2014 09:48

That's weird...someone just changed it...but no number yet?
I think they should give you admin access for a day, that could turn out interesting?
And to answer your question, nope not crazy...my parents have had me tested many times...I don't meet the criteria :p
Mark

lonestaral Mon 19 May 2014 20:08

Congratulations #119.
Welcome to a new world.:)

MetalHead Mon 19 May 2014 20:09

Mark Congrats on your build !!! You get #119.

dbinokc Mon 19 May 2014 20:12

Congrats on getting your number. Obviously getting the machine working is the most important part, but the serial number brings a sense of closure. Of course the real work now begins!

IMMark Mon 19 May 2014 20:16

Woo Hoo...One One Niner!
Thanks...feel like I get to sit at the big boy table now :)

Tom Ayres Mon 19 May 2014 20:17

The few, the proud, the numbered...:D

pblackburn Mon 19 May 2014 20:41

Congratulations on your machine number and first step. We look forward to seeing what you bring to the table. Great Job!!!!

darren salyer Mon 19 May 2014 20:42

Congrats to #119 from #101. Well Done, Sir!!

jhiggins7 Mon 19 May 2014 21:02

Builder's Log Update
 
Congratulations, Mark, on completing your MechMate and earning Serial #119.

Here's is the Updated Builder's Log with your entry added.

Please let me know the cutting dimensions of your MechMate for the Builder's Log. Also, please review your entry and let me know any changes you want to make.

darren salyer Mon 19 May 2014 21:14

So how cool is it that #26 is still an active forum member?

hennie Tue 20 May 2014 00:14

The first MM with red GT stripes:)

IMMark Tue 20 May 2014 05:55

Thank you, it's been a long road. It is nice to see the first builds are still hanging around the forum.
John, I will send you apm for the build log. I will post some of my projects....most likely will make some lady bugs...I hear good things about them:)
Mark
One One Niner

lonestaral Tue 20 May 2014 06:42

Lady bugs are o.k.
A gear, now that is something else eh Darren.:D

darren salyer Tue 20 May 2014 07:02

Sure thing, Al.
If there were a "truth in thread titles" law, we would all probably share my thread title.
I'm still having fun.

KenC Tue 20 May 2014 07:12

GEARS!!! Must cut some gears! :cool:

darren salyer Tue 20 May 2014 07:28

You guys making fun of me.......??

IMMark Tue 20 May 2014 09:36

Would anyone care to share anything on how they charge for CNC services?
I am assuming hourly for actual cutting time, setup charge, design charge hourly?
From what little I can find, looks like $50/hour on the very low end to $150 and more...
I know there are a ton of factors (and I am looking in the US).
Mark

smreish Tue 20 May 2014 13:30

Mark,
This has been reviewed before, and as your aware, the market will bear what it will bear.

I know some locally charge the following:
- 50$ a run hour + setup
- per part (negotiated)
- per design run. For instance, I cut out 100 "flower motifs of MDF"....that was 150.00

Nominal charges on each job - required.
- client provide material
- tooling charge (cost as-is per required to cut if something other than standard 1/4" carbide run-of-the-mill bit.)
- CAD/CAM drafting time if part wasn't in a good DXF or other easy to toolpath file.
.....

Or, "yeah - I can do that for 300 bucks....you have a drawing?"

domino11 Tue 20 May 2014 16:24

Congrats Mark! :)

pblackburn Tue 20 May 2014 17:07

A quick way is to figure the price per square foot. I have talked to a lot of people that do it this way. If 3D is including that is another added price per sq ft. Remember you are making something custom and not a production run. Runs have different prices as first time development cost then cost per part. Everything Sean said is pertinent also. Do not be afraid to charge enough for the product. Make sure you have included all applicable charges including tooling wear cost and electricity usage. If you make a great product, people will pay even if it is a little high.

IMMark Tue 20 May 2014 19:22

Thanks Heath!
Thanks Sean and Pete...that gives me a good place to start, and that's what I was looking for. I am sure there is a bit of a learning curve there as well, but I will get it figured out.
Thanks again for weighing in.
Mark

dbinokc Tue 20 May 2014 21:33

There are plenty of opportunities to do things that can help build experience. I made a little plaque for a departing coworker a few weeks ago. I wish it could have turned out better, but she was quite thrilled and moved by it. It was a great way to start getting familiar with my new machine.

smreish Wed 21 May 2014 08:53

3D...Pete....that reminds me.
I did some statues a few years ago on the modified #5....I charged about 80 hrs to cut those.

IMMark Wed 21 May 2014 09:23

Thanks Sean, I knew that 3D would have an upcharge on it.
And DB, I can assure you that everyone that I know will be getting some kind of sign. Those that don't want one, will be getting one that says "here is the sign you didn't want" :D
Mark

smreish Wed 21 May 2014 10:23

To be fair on the statues.
Client provided NURBS based modeling scans in 3 formats to me.

16 hours was drafting, 3d model manipulation and input into RHINO and Cut3d. Amazingly, Cut3d did a better job handling the models that Rhino with 4th axis module.
8 hours set up on the machine
8 hours of test cuts
4 hours of cleaning
~36 hours of continuous cutting with 600$ worth of cutters.
...and A LOT of coffee :)

dbinokc Wed 21 May 2014 11:22

Were the cutters special or basic carbide?

smreish Wed 21 May 2014 11:39

The first round of cutters were from:

http://www.3dcutting.com/solutions/frogtools.html

the 12" cutter is about 280.00 US.
I had 3 other specialty tapered ones for this project.

I did find out that with a little bit of experimenting on the bench grinder, I was able to make my own bullnose and 45"/60" degree point long cutters from off-the-shelf 1/2" drill bits at home depot. The trick was grinding them so they were balanced.

I used the drill bits in a Large drill press, hand grinder in a machinist vise and radiused them while in rotation at slow speed. Then resharpened afterwards. Perfect for foam cutting at 13K RPM.

Good luck.

IMMark Wed 21 May 2014 12:24

I was looking into to some HDU and found some 15lb, 4x8- 0.75 for about $200 delivered.
Is that about what you guys are used to?
Mark


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