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hflwaterski Thu 10 August 2017 06:17

Hi Ivo - Looks like your photos didn't come through as links. Looking forward to seeing them!

ifffff Thu 10 August 2017 12:28

Intresting. Photos are uploaded here.

hflwaterski Thu 10 August 2017 12:54

There must have been something wrong with my browser. I can see them now. Sorry about that!

ifffff Sun 27 August 2017 06:46

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I had some time again to work on new MM. Sorry for messy workshop.

Gantry is welded
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Gantry is ready for epoxy levelling
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Fox Sun 27 August 2017 11:30

Following with interest, still have my 25 Hiwins laying around, maybe I get around upgrading the beast someday.

khouji Mon 28 August 2017 05:11

Quote:
Originally Posted by ifffff View Post
I had some time again to work on new MM. Sorry for messy workshop.

Gantry is welded
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Gantry is ready for epoxy levelling
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Your workshop is really cool!

Fox Mon 28 August 2017 09:55

What kind/brand of epoxy did you use ? I hear common epoxies creep up at the edges, and you need special self levelling versions.

ifffff Mon 28 August 2017 10:56

Yepp, epoxy is creeping up at edges. After drying i am sanding it down.

Actually i dont know what epoxy it is. On bottle is only information on its properties: UV proof, 5 hours liquid time, 10 hours gel time, total curing time 48 hours. Got it from local composite materials supplier.

ifffff Wed 29 November 2017 12:33

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I had over long time again made some progress. Y car laser cutted parts arrived and it is welded together. As you can see on pictures it is little bit different as original. Main plate is 4mm steel, other 6mm steel.
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On evening started aligning Y axis rails
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IamDave Wed 29 November 2017 20:08

HIWIN rails. That is awesome. Good luck. It looks good from what I can see so far.

Fox Thu 30 November 2017 12:30

Following with interest. Smart idea to reinforce.

ifffff Fri 01 December 2017 09:24

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Linear rails are shimmed straight and i started disassembling it and preparing for painting.
To technique aligning surfaces with epoxy can i say that surfaces are coming out almost perfect. Surface flatness was on 0,5mm tolerance, and i think that inaccuracy is caused of sanding. With 0,1mm shims made of beer can tin i got everything staight.
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Also arrived today enclosure for computer.
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MetalHead Sat 02 December 2017 09:15

Looking great!

ifffff Mon 04 December 2017 08:52

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Base is painted with Teknos epoxy paint. Color RAL 5002
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jhiggins7 Tue 05 December 2017 05:24

Very nice!

IamDave Sun 10 December 2017 16:02

That is a very nice looking, well built table. Definitely strong enough to, take a forklift strike and survive.

ifffff Wed 13 December 2017 09:50

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Now moved machine to its final location. I hope to have enough time on this week to clean and paint gantry and Y axis car.
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Motors and drivers arrived. Drivers are Leadshine ES-DH2306 and motors ES-MH33480. They are 3 phase hybrid servos.Holding torque 8Nm
For motion control i ordered ethernet smoothstepper and CNC4PC C23 breakoutboard. For some reason CNC4PC people forgot to send me smoothstepper, only C23 board arrived. Promised to send me ESS separately. Again 2-3 weeks to wait.
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IamDave Fri 15 December 2017 05:18

Wow. That thing is a beast.

Jason Marsha Sat 16 December 2017 06:26

Great work. Can't wait for the videos of it cutting.

ifffff Sun 17 December 2017 08:51

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I had not much time on this week for cnc building. Only cleaned and painted gantry
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I am waiting criticism to another cnc related idea. I am planning to rebuild my dust extraction to one bigger central unit instead of on each machine one small unit.. Lets say for example like Holzcraft ASA 4003
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But to improve shop air quality by blowing used air outside and avoid building special cabinet over dust extractor is idea to order special filter bags. They should be double walled, inside filter cloth and outside airtight fabric with output
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IamDave Mon 18 December 2017 12:43

Dust Collection Critic
 
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I for one think, that is a good idea. I use a dust collector can, in between the blower and router. Still when it comes time to empty it, it is problem. I fill it up twice a week most times.

IamDave Mon 18 December 2017 14:13

Apologies, I got interrupted. What I was trying to say is. I switch the one hose from, my 3x5 router to my 2x2 router. It makes a mess. Not much but it is enough to build up.
I always cut 1.25 inch thick extira panels. So I make a lot of heavy dust.

ifffff Thu 21 December 2017 10:57

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Some progress again:
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Yes, changing dust bags/emptying can makes dust, but idea is to keep shop air cleaner by ending dust recirculation. Anyway i try this idea when my new dust collector and pipes arriving.

pblackburn Tue 26 December 2017 10:35

As in terms of exposure, the changing of any collected media poses more concentrated exposure to the harmful particle. However you choose to capture the dust is up to you, disposing is the higher risk when you have dust collection.

MetalHead Thu 28 December 2017 04:32

Ivo great progress on your machine. Thanks for the detail pictures.

ifffff Thu 28 December 2017 10:08

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Gearbox ver 2.0
It is basically same as on #38. But i made 2 upgrades to my gearbox design compared to gearboxes on MM#38. First stronger schaft bearings, 6202 instead of 69102. Appears to 61902 are to weak. On #38 i schould replace them on every 3-6 months. I hope 6202-s last longer. Second upgrade is connection to frame trough 2 6000 bearings. On that way is connection freely moving and what is most important, backlash free. Only bolt trough hole can look tight, but it generates sometimes problems.
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Fox Fri 29 December 2017 02:18

Good to see you are exactly addressing the areas I would or have improved on the standard MM design. Still following with interest. Happy New Year in advance.

Macwood Sat 30 December 2017 07:09

Hi Ivo
I am following your build closely as I am interested in using hiwin HGR20 linear guideways also.
Did you use full lenth guideways or join short lenths? would you be happy to share who your supplier is for hiwin products?

Thanks

ifffff Sat 30 December 2017 09:24

All linear guides - except z axis ballscrew - and belt reduction stuff are bought from Mekanex (https://www.mekanex.com/). All guideways are of cource full lenghts. I better pay extra 100€ for long item transport instead of generating problems to myself.

IamDave Sat 03 March 2018 06:05

Ivo. I checked in to see your new stuff. What do you make?

ifffff Sat 03 March 2018 12:26

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Havent done not much meanwhile. Z axis is projected and details milled out. Made it from 15mm thick 6082 alu sheet with 50x20 reinforcements to minimize deflection.
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And other free time what i have after dayjob, is gone for building complete new dust extraction system with one big central unit instead of small blower on each maschine.
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More about it and more pictures tomorrow.

ifffff Sun 04 March 2018 09:26

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As promised some more about new dust extraction system. As i earlier posted here idea is to vent that air what is coming trough dust extractor filter outside. For that i ordered special bags made from pvc tarpaulin material. Those bags are over dust filter bags and have output for air what is vented outside. Outputs are behind bags, trough wall and not visible on picture.
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Now i have clean workshop air :D.No extra fine particle dust on air.

Blower is Holzmann ABS 5340P. It has 5hp (3,7kw) motor. It has huge suction power, and already on first tests was clear, that this is way too much. I installed for blower fan speed regulating VFD (Invertek Optidrive E3). On blower fan speed 1800 rpm it has enough suction power to serve 1-2 125mm pipes together (main pipe is 250mm).
That blower running on 1800 rpm is unbeliavably quiet. When smaller units are screaming on high rpm, then its working sound is comparable with cordless drill.
Shortage is, that on colder days is workshop colder due air exchange and needs more heating power, especially when dust blower is running long hours. But spring is around corner and that isnt problem anymore ;)

IamDave Sun 04 March 2018 09:35

System to keep the lungs free of dust. Very good idea. I wear the little white masks, when I am cutting and sanding. It is amazing how dirty they get. Thank you for the posting of pictures. You guys are inspiring to me.

ifffff Sun 04 March 2018 12:16

I suggest to buy instead of those scrappy white masks 3M half facemask. Example: https://www.pksafety.com/halfacres60s.html or https://www.pksafety.com/3m-7500-lea...tor-combo.html and fine dust filters https://www.pksafety.com/3m-p95-filter.html for them.
Dont buy it over internet. Go to store and find put what size / mask fits perfectly with your face. I have both of them what i linked, but 7500 series fits better to my face.
They wont leak between face and mask like those white masks, and end of dusty workday there is huge difference how much dust have you on your lungs. Of course those white ones are better then nothing, but..... they are quite poor.

ifffff Wed 07 March 2018 11:31

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Some of Z axis details are screwed together, i hope to finish it tomorrow.
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And started to install electronic and wiring
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ifffff Thu 08 March 2018 11:14

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Completed today Z axis. Flex buy pressure applyed one hand, measured on spindle bracket is about 0,08mm. To comparision, applying same force on #38 z axis i can bend it almost 1mm.
More pictures about it:
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IamDave Fri 09 March 2018 17:35

Awesome job
 
Your z looks awesome and sturdy, good for cutting thick materials.
Today I use my new mask like you suggested. I breathe good. :D.

IamDave Fri 09 March 2018 17:36

forgot mask pic
 
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oops

jeep534 Sat 10 March 2018 21:21

wonderful job it gives me inspiration for getting on with my build

happy hunting
archie

jhiggins7 Sun 11 March 2018 05:54

Love your Z axis. Thanks for the great pictures. Is it your own design?


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