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Doug_Ford Sun 21 December 2008 14:18

Congrats Irfan. I'm anxious to see some pictures of your new parts.

CNCQuest Mon 22 December 2008 00:20

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Originally Posted by javeria View Post
HI folks, I ordered the Asian spindle today.

cost being 261 USD + shipping - Vishnu also ordered the motors from Deitec, cost was 52USD for 580 OZ motors - we are using a 1:3 reduction - so I think will be sufficient.

the advantage of buying it from deitec was that they are located in Hong Kong and UPS is real cheap than from interior China.

RGDS
IRfan
Congrats, Irfan. Let us know how the Chinese Spindle comes along.

Can you give us the info of the Spindle specs, and the website of Deitec so I can inquire as well from them for my prospective use?

Thanks,
WT

vishnu Mon 22 December 2008 11:28

Irfan & me both of us have ordered spindles and i have ordered steppers also. please wait for a week so that we can tell u the quality so our folks can proceed further.

Vishnu

Gerald D Thu 25 December 2008 11:22

Hi Irfan & Vishnu, did you guys ever give us a link to Deitec?

javeria Thu 25 December 2008 20:59

Its here G' http://www.mechmate.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1196

website is www.driver-motor.com

javeria Fri 26 December 2008 10:31

Some Closeups Of Spindleand Vishnus Steeper Moters
 
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hI,
these are some of the pictures which vishnu sent me earlier.i still havent physically touched the spindle yet.

i have a concerns about the motors we ordered for vishnu.these motors are
8 wire motors rated at 5 amps we need help in wiring this to the gecko 203 drive, should we do it half coil or full.this is a bit confusing for us.

RGDS
IRFAN

Gerald D Fri 26 December 2008 11:08

The starting point for wiring those motors is to know the coil inductances. A spec sheet will tell all.

javeria Wed 31 December 2008 05:13

product pics and vfd.
 
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some pics of the work done on my smaller router.

this is a book rack designed by me - :)

how I hope the mehmate was working - first I had to cut the 3x8 sheets to the required sizes and then load them on the machine - for the longer parts had to split the toolpath into 2.

also the Delta VFD arrived today - the application engineer here is so friendly and promised to come and help me in my installation.

RGDS
Irfan

J.R. Hatcher Wed 31 December 2008 07:06

Irfan I need that guy's name so I could ask if he will come and help me install one. :D I like your book case.

Gerald D Wed 31 December 2008 08:59

Delta VFD's are fun . . . . . I have gotten 3 different models to drive spindles already. JR, can I come and help you? :D

Nice "technical" bookcase!

javeria Wed 31 December 2008 10:02

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Originally Posted by J.R. Hatcher View Post
Irfan I need that guy's name so I could ask if he will come and help me install one. :D I like your book case.
JR, I called up the AE ' he's ready to come - and has a visa ready - he's just waiting for you to send the flight tickets :D

javeria Wed 31 December 2008 10:09

G' I havent got any experience with the VFD, if that front panel removable and can it be placed where comfortable right - anyways I will also look into the manual.

RGDS
IRfan

Gerald D Wed 31 December 2008 10:23

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Originally Posted by javeria View Post
. . . . . . if that front panel removable and can it be placed where comfortable right . . . . .
. . . . . if you purchased the ribbon cable

Normally you would only use the little panel to start / stop the spindle and set its speed, but we start/stop it with the PMDX122 and put another speed control potentiometer on the control box.

J.R. Hatcher Wed 31 December 2008 19:50

Gerald I have 2 spare bedrooms. If you would like a holiday to southeastern North Carolina, come on down or rather up.
Irfan Gerald's offer didn't mention flight tickets so I had to go with him, sorry :rolleyes::D ................. I wonder how much Gerald eats in a week.

javeria Thu 08 January 2009 06:48

G' I was searching for a reactor for the spindle and VFD, they only provided me with one which I can use between the Power supply and VFD and not the one between the VFD and spindle - will this work for us?

RGDS
IRfan

Gerald D Thu 08 January 2009 06:54

I know too little about reactors to make a guess on this one. :(

javeria Thu 08 January 2009 07:04

ok - the supplier assured me that I would be OK - so I am going ahead to use the one provided. will let everyone know if any problem arises.

RGDS
IRfan

javeria Fri 16 January 2009 12:22

gearbox comments welcome :
 
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Folks - here is my design of the gear box - comments are welcome - especially those finding teh faults in the design.

RGDS
IRfan

javeria Fri 16 January 2009 13:00

forgot the pinion shaft
 
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shaft added

the pinion shaft is 10mm dia.

Richards Fri 16 January 2009 13:11

Be sure to allow for adjustment. Normally the motor slides at least 6mm to compensate for differences in the belt and to allow the belt to be replaced.

jhiggins7 Fri 16 January 2009 13:16

Irfan,

I noticed that the belt in your drawing doesn't show teeth. Is it a toothed belt?

If yes, I have read (I don't know where) that a good quality toothed belt and gear system (often called a timing belt and timing pulley) has very little backlash, even less than gear-to-gear system.

Is that your understanding?

Regards,
John

javeria Sat 17 January 2009 02:17

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Mike I modified the mount per your advise.

John you are right on every count :)

i am thinking of material that can be used for this, I have seen Acrylic and Aluminum used so far, will delrin / ABS / PVC - can any of these be used? considering I am not tapping threads in them?

RGDS
Irfan

Richards Sat 17 January 2009 04:03

I built one set of belt drive gearboxes from 1/2-inch polycarbonate, another set from 1/2-inch aluminum, and the final set from 1/2-inch Delrin. All three materials worked equally well. If I were to build another set, I would probably use Delrin, but I would use metal for the motor mount to help dissipate the heat better. One other thing that I would definitely do next time would be to cut the two main plate from 1/2-inch MDF until I was satisfied with the design. Looking through my drawings shows fourteen different versions, about half of which were actually cut. The only reason that I used 1/2-inch thick material was to allow the brackets to be pocketed for ball bearings. It would be much more time/cost effective to have the brackets laser cut out of 3/16-inch steel and then either use bronze bushings for bearings or cut some bearing blocks out of 1/2-inch aluminum or Delrin. (Even when jogging at 15-ips with a 1-1/2 inch diameter pinion gear, the shaft is only turning 200 RPM, so I doubt whether it's necessary to use ball bearings. Except of the mess of occasionally oiling bronze bushings, they would probably be satisfactory.)

(On my designs, I also slotted the hole for the shaft and the shaft slot was large enough so that I could remove the motor without taking the gear off the shaft.)

javeria Sun 18 January 2009 06:04

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Mile I took care of the words in the brackets,

folks teh pics are in no particular order - found out that I had made a few mistakes and I am still finding out and working my way through :)

RGDS
Irfan

jhiggins7 Sun 18 January 2009 06:49

Irfan,

Nice progress. Thanks for sharing. It's good to see some step-by-step pictures of a build.

I notice that the "bevels" are not yet on the Y-rails. Yet they are cut to length. Are you going to mill them?

Regards,
John

javeria Sun 18 January 2009 06:57

:)

I mentioned that I erred in a lot of places - congrats John - you caught one :)

I am going to weld a extra piece of flat and then grind it.

not the right way - but just a improvisation.

Hey Vishnu are u listening mate - I need that attachment to grind the rails - send it to me fast :):rolleyes:

RGDS
Irfan

Gerald D Sun 18 January 2009 07:03

Nice progress Irfan!

Want to choose a new title for your thread? :)

javeria Sun 18 January 2009 07:34

This time your choice G' :)

RGDS
IRfan

LIBBIT Sat 24 January 2009 11:39

Hi,

I'm busy looking at a 3:1 gearbox and like u'r design. Could u make the design avaiable. I'm using SolidWorks 2006.

Rgds

John

javeria Mon 26 January 2009 05:21

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John - once the design works - I will share the IGES files.

well - the control box went one step ahead now - you can see the pics attached

From going to Coimbatore to visit Vishnu - I picked up the spindle and tomorrow will be off to purchase the tube - pump and radiator -

need to get some U clamps to mount the spindle on the Z plate.

Vishnu has given me some Z components and I will start working on it once everything is going in my hand.

vishnu has not yet completed the rail grinding and so I could not get his attachment.

One another thing Vishnu did not mention is the screw up the CNC guy has done to the V wheels - Instead of the advised 90 deg the wheels measured 70 deg which is a tad deeper and so we are back to sq one on wheels - we have asked for replacements.

Gear box material was purchased by Vishnu so even that is coming from him -

till then i have to mount bellows on my Ball screw machine which I will finish and also the cooling part - for the spindle for the mechmate.

RGDS
IRfan


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