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KenC Mon 05 November 2012 00:08

That isn't a big issue, but sure look ugly.

Gerald D Mon 05 November 2012 00:54

A drill bit does not have a 90 degree angle on the nose (most are 118 degrees), and that is why it doesn't work as a countersink bit. I can see you tried to drill the "countersinks" a bit below the surface to get the screw head level, but the angles are not matching up.

marko cro Mon 05 November 2012 03:26

Thanks everybody

What happened is that I did the countersink the holes, and then went drilling the 50x30 squared pipe, but I reversed the sliding plate and when i finished drilling, I thought that holes could not match, and they didnt. Thats why the heads are not flat.
I grined the drill bit to be very close to 90 deg, but the alignment of the holes is the issue.
Checked if the sliding plate has any distortion but there are none. I am considering making the holes of 8 diameter and get new countersunk screws.
The only need for the 50x30 pipe is to flatten the sliding plate, and to get support for air shock, so I think there shouldnt be any major problems to redrill it for bigger screws?

Gerald D Mon 05 November 2012 04:20

I weld the pipe to the plate (two small welds) and then drill the thread size holes right through. Then break the welds and finish the drilling/countersinking/threading on the seperate pieces.

marko cro Mon 05 November 2012 04:22

How simple thing can be effective, didnt think about it.
Thank you

marko cro Mon 05 November 2012 04:58

Also 1 question regarding eccentric bolts.
I belive I have low quality bearings coz when i tighten the bolt trough eccentric bolt, the bearing starts to put some major resistance in turrning the V wheel.
When i loosen it up, the eccentric starts to turn and there is no way i can fix(stop from turning) it then.
Was thinking to weld eccentric and trough bolt together, and not to use tap holes on spider plate. Any ideas how to overcome that?

Thanks

smreish Mon 05 November 2012 07:32

Check the bearing race and thrust washer.

If the washer is too large of diameter, it will bind on the outer bearing and prevent it from moving. Or, you need to add a bearing that matches the thrust part of the bearing for movement.

marko cro Mon 05 November 2012 08:09

I have checked it, its ok.
My only concern is how to prevent eccentric bolts to lose their position when the machine is operating, beacuse i cant tighten them properly.
If i tighten 2 hard on the bearings, there will be no rotation from them. I think I should buy new bearing and press them into my V wheels. Will post pictures today.
I think there is some space between bearings in the V wheel, and when i press it from both sides, there is some distortion inside and therefore the resistance.

marko cro Mon 05 November 2012 15:34

Problem solved, had to put drilled spacer between bearings.
Some pictures
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...99_800x600.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...00_800x600.jpg
My loyal friend lying behind me always waiting for a hug
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...02_800x600.jpg

marko cro Thu 22 November 2012 04:33

Painting done
I was amazed by this color when I saw it. MM will gain a industrial feel.
1 Week in total of painting.
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...05_450x600.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...64_450x600.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...11_450x600.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...45_450x600.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...77_800x600.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...11_800x600.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...11_800x600.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...04_800x600.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...44_800x600.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...99_800x600.jpg

slobato Thu 22 November 2012 06:03

Good job Marko :)

zumergido Thu 22 November 2012 10:00

i almost paint it whit this hammered metal paint effect. that i turn to blue. now iam regret. that paint is harder and look better.

marko cro Tue 11 December 2012 05:31

Thank you
The paint is pretty and very easy to paint. I have used 1.5 of 0.75 litre buckes, so its very economic, al thou I have layered in thick layer.
Only regret is that I haven't used black hammerite on black parts, because the black parts now look unequal in paint quality.
I have a question for a cable hangers or cable holders. I would like to purchase this cable holders, but ebay doesent have the right sizes.
If anybody can point me in the right link, would much be obliged.

marko cro Tue 11 December 2012 07:06

Not sure why i cant edit my post, bit nvm.
Was thinking something like this, can anyone make a ruling?
http://www.alcomachinetools.com/Nosa...ypage.tpl.html

danilom Tue 11 December 2012 08:22

Odlican je taj nosac kablova iz Alco-a , neces pogresiti u makedoniji je na masini bez problema visi slobodno 1.5m

that one would work without problems, we mounted it on a machine in Macedonia with dual spindle and z motors, spans 1.5m without problems

marko cro Tue 11 December 2012 08:24

Thank you Danilo, was waiting for confirmation, and im ordering it right now.
Hvala brate

marko cro Mon 07 January 2013 08:52

Happy New year to all MM community (with delay)
Some work has been done, and some needs to be done.
A fun 4 days with very good help.
Some latest pics
Had to adjust desing of the cable holders support, beacuse of the I instead od C profiles. looks decent
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...7323265671.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...7409584963.jpg
Friend's Robocob moment, end of long day with satisfying results
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...7332485326.jpg
Precision of the table on the total lenght
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...7332360996.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...7330254900.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...7330221301.jpg

slobato Mon 07 January 2013 10:16

Good job Marko. I await anxious to see this masterpiece working. :D

marko cro Tue 08 January 2013 10:02

Thank you, just remembered i will send you some SW design on your mail. Anybody else needs it, just say here.
If the admins aprove it.

slobato Tue 08 January 2013 10:57

Thanks. I stay waiting for, Do you have my e-mail?

pblackburn Tue 22 January 2013 17:39

Like the color.

Claudiu Thu 24 January 2013 06:35

Lookin' good!

marko cro Thu 31 January 2013 07:06

Thank you guyz for your kind words :)
As still in assembly phase, I was wondering do I really need proximity sensors.
Was having in mind this low price on ebay, but I cant be sure. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Inductive-Pr...item2323fc09e0
How do they react, on proximity from metal of there has to be positive-negative sensor?

slobato Thu 31 January 2013 07:23

Quote:
Originally Posted by marko cro View Post
Thank you guyz for your kind words :)
As still in assembly phase, I was wondering do I really need proximity sensors.
Was having in mind this low price on ebay, but I cant be sure. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Inductive-Pr...item2323fc09e0
How do they react, on proximity from metal of there has to be positive-negative sensor?
Marko, This sensor itīs composed by original MM project? Whatīs the function it?:confused: Thanks.

xraydude Thu 31 January 2013 10:12

Marko, those sensors are NPN, 4mm sensing range, 12mm size, normally open sensors. When used per the plans, these sensors will be in a 'closed' state normally as they are detecting the rails, and only open at the stops (when the sensor detects the opening shown on 10 10 246 for the X rail, similar for the Y) or if the gantry lifts off of the rails. If multiple sensors are placed in series, an open condition on any one of them will trigger the circuit. There are considerations, though, such as voltage drop / max current, etc. to think about as well as the particular BOB you are using and I have seen many discussions of this here. I was actually looking at those same sensors myself for my build. I have seen many builds here with no proximity sensors used, so I would not consider them essential. For me, it is more of a safety issue.

I am sure that one of the guys with more experience will chime in.

Ted

smreish Thu 31 January 2013 11:08

Chiming in....

Ted, you explanation was succinct and correct.
Nice feature, not required, but great when you have it for daily setup of machine.
One of the benefits of Mach 3 is it has a homing routine that allows all of the sensors to be wired in parallel and properly detect "home" for each axis while only using one input on the BOB. (I isolated each sensor via a relay for EMF isolation).

Again, great feature - but NOT necessary at all for the operation of the MM.

Note on operation without the homing sensors: The turn off....hold gantry against the adjusted hard stops...energize WORKS just fine and part of the MM design.

Sean

marko cro Thu 31 January 2013 11:13

Thank you Ted and Sean,

You have been very helpful, I understand how to apply it to the machine. As I am planning to prepositioned moulds which will be positioned around the table, I will use these proximity switches.
Now I remembered that I forgot cable end connectors, insulated or not? So can anybody help out with this one. End cables to connect the control box with MM without cable interference.

smreish Thu 31 January 2013 11:27

My cable was M12 termination, 4 core, no shield.

marko cro Sat 09 March 2013 15:57

Some movement, finally.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mFE9...ature=youtu.be

pblackburn Sat 09 March 2013 18:35

It is alive. That's a great feeling is it not. Nice paint color. I would have liked to use something else but I had blue on hand.


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