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Drad98_98 Mon 08 February 2010 17:43

Way to go Blake, I hope to be cutting at end of month, Great Job!!

lumberjack_jeff Mon 08 February 2010 18:20

After watching the round parts pulled out by the upcut router bit, I was relieved to see that the final toolpath for the big part had bridges.

You're a quicker study that I was. :D

Very fast! Well done!

blakekoehn Mon 08 February 2010 21:12

Quote:
You're a quicker study that I was.
This ain't my first rodeo... I had a shopbot for almost 2 years.

Had to post another video, you can see some closeups of the dust foot I cut out of 3/4 Birch and slapped together with a couple of drywall screws so I could surface the table. I used a rubber door sweep instead of a brush.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL3M0n5sRLM

rayditutto Mon 08 February 2010 21:32

just saw the surfacing video - i'm wondering about the ridges on the surfaced portion - does anyone have an idea why they appear?

cheers

lumberjack_jeff Mon 08 February 2010 21:53

Two things. Often stripes are because the cutting face isn't absolutely parallel with the plane of travel.

Also because (like a lawnmower) the tool pushes the fibers of the mdf one direction on the left side of the cutting path, and the other direction on the right side of the cutting path.

The rest of this discussion moved to: Setting the Z-slide square (perpendicular) to the table top

MetalHead Mon 08 February 2010 22:22

I see Logo's , Paint and Dust - Don't that get a SN ?

Gerald D Tue 09 February 2010 00:09

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Originally Posted by MetalHead View Post
I see Logo's , Paint and Dust - Don't that get a SN ?
Yup, that gets #47 - well done! :)

Claudiu Tue 09 February 2010 00:09

Congratulations for your machine, it`s looking great.
I like the dinamics of the moovements while surfacing... :)

domino11 Tue 09 February 2010 00:48

Well Done Blake! :)

javeria Tue 09 February 2010 01:10

Ah - very good Blake - please post some more pics of the temp dust collection setup

sailfl Tue 09 February 2010 03:26

Blake,

Congratulations on finishing and #47.

Interesting dust collection.

The ridges are from the cutter not being parrellel as Jeff mentioned. It looks as though you need to adjust the Y or sideways movement of the spindle.

I would also like to see more dust collection photos.

jhiggins7 Tue 09 February 2010 07:56

Update Builder's Log
 
Blake,

Congratulations on a great looking MechMate and Serial #47, completed in record time.

Here is the Updated Builder's Log.

Please provide the "cutting" dimensions of your MechMate for the log. Also, please review your entry and provide any changes you would like.

riesvantwisk Tue 09 February 2010 09:01

Congratulations!

That looks like a fine working machine

Ries

blakekoehn Tue 09 February 2010 09:37

Dust Foot Pictures and DXF
 
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47 WOW! That's Neat! Thanks Gerald!

Here are some pictures and a DXF of the dust foot. It worked great until the shopvac filled up. :D

blakekoehn Tue 09 February 2010 09:39

I used a door sweep similar to this one. http://www.itseasybeinggreen.com/sel...oor-sweep.html

blakekoehn Tue 09 February 2010 09:41

I can't edit the builder's log, but my table is 49 x 97 inches.

sailfl Tue 09 February 2010 11:28

Blake,

From my little experience, I wanted the dust foot to move with the router so it adjusts the height of the dust foot based on the height of the router. With a fixed dust foot you have to adjust it when you have different sizes of material.

Gerald D Tue 09 February 2010 11:44

Nils, if you take 3 passes at 3 depths, do you adjust your dust foot height every time? Probably not. So why must one change the setting if changing board thicknesses slightly? ;)

blakekoehn Tue 09 February 2010 12:16

When working with the lower vac of a shopvac I prefer a fixed foot and a door sweep over a spindle attached foot and a strip brush. A strip brush looses more vacuum thru the bristles. I can adjust the door sweep to just clear the workpiece and I lose no vacuum thru the sweep. It is a more efficient. You have to use all your vac when your vac is underpowered.;)

The other thing is when you change bits you just raise the spindle out of the dust foot and you can change the bit unobstructed.

sailfl Tue 09 February 2010 17:44

Gerald,

You talking to the wrong person. I don't have to adjust my dust foot.

Blake, if you like that way, then it works for you. I like mine out of the way if I want to look at wants going on with the cut. I can pause the machine, move the router up and get a good view. Eveyone works differently. I like seeing what other people are doing.

I also do not use a brush on my foot. I don't get the advantage.

blakekoehn Tue 09 February 2010 18:15

I have a question about Mach 3. In the Shopbot 3 software you could jog an axis a set distance. Say you wanted to move the X 2.25" you would put in the command JX2.25 and it would move exactly 2.25"

Is there a way to Jog an Axis a set distance in Mach 3?

jhiggins7 Tue 09 February 2010 18:53

Update Builder's Log
 
Blake,

Thanks for the table size information. Here is the Updated Builder's Log.

Castone Tue 09 February 2010 19:49

In Mach select MDI then high light the box at the bottom left. Type in G0 X1 Y1 F10 . Then hit enter the machine will then jog to that measurement.

blakekoehn Tue 09 February 2010 20:29

Had to go try it. Neat! Thanks!

blakekoehn Fri 19 February 2010 11:10

What are the implications of setting Mach 3 to operate on a faster Hz then 25000? I set mine to 45000 and my top speed went from 490 to over 800IPM.

riesvantwisk Fri 19 February 2010 11:39

Blake,

you need to make sure that your computer can cope with that speed for hours in a row.

The EMC people do have a tool to measure how stable you computer is called latency test. I think that Mach also has something like that. What is basically does is measure the maximum latency, how fast does software respond to hardware interrupts, and you need to take it's slowest value (simply said).

The higher that KHZ setting, the more your computer spend in kernel, and the slower your computer will respond to mouse/keyboard input and screen updates. Set it to something you need.

lastly, if you are seeking to get more speed out of your machine, then take a look at your acceleration values, slow acceleration will not bring your machine up to speed fast enough and it will slow down the whole cutting process.

Personally I would not go above 800IPM, but I know Jeff did surface at 1350IPM, but you know... it's surfacing, not cutting into the material (unless you table is way off :D )

For jogging I did set my maximum to 15000mm/minute (600IPM).

Ries

javeria Fri 19 February 2010 19:59

blake - mine is a intel atom board and daily works at 45khz, u just have to try it for a couple of days

blakekoehn Wed 14 April 2010 13:48

Some Recent projects
 
I thought I might bump my thread to the top with some recent projects. Nothing great, just pictures of the everyday use of my Mechmate here in the sign shop. I am loving this machine!

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_2dz8X7YnQOw/S8...0/DSCF1909.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_2dz8X7YnQOw/S8...0/DSCF1911.JPG

This is the front of a small wooden box I built for my wife. I haven't taken a picture of it completed but I will soon. It sits by our back door and we throw our shoes in it when we come in.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_2dz8X7YnQOw/S8...0/DSCF1884.JPG


This is an edge lit acrylic sign. I carved the design in reverse in the back of 1/4 acrylic with a 90 degree V bit. There is a strip of blue LEDs running along the bottom that illuminate it. Overall size: 6 x 12"

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_2dz8X7YnQOw/S8...0/DSCF1880.JPG

This wasn't done on my router, it is just some of the regular work we do here. This trailer was just plain white when we got it in, no artwork on it at all.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_2dz8X7YnQOw/S5...0/DSCF1863.JPG

More coming soon!

MetalHead Wed 14 April 2010 20:12

So lets get a comparison to your old ShopBot and the MechMate.


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