Claus,

No problem, let me try and clear the confusion.

In this picture:

http://www.blurrycustoms.com/Images/avenger1_pub.jpg

You can see that the Bosch 1617EVS motor is mounted the in the top of the Avenger spindle. All you have to do is load your motor with our coupling (using either a 1/2" or 3/8" collet) and then drop your motor into the Avenger system, and tighten it down.

The Avenger system can accommodate nearly any round motor under 4.25" in diameter. This includes 80mm and 100mm Chinese water cooled motors.

Claus, yes, you can use your current 2.2kW spindle. Assuming it is a round motor with a 100mm or smaller diameter.

Let me know if this information helps, or if further explanation is required.

We will be posting video of the unit in action, and preferably before our pre-order deadline. Just bear with us as we put it together. :D

Videos!!! I can't wait!! The price is looking better!! May I ask, why did you guys decide to use non industry standard tool holders instead of a BT30 or the like? Sorry, just had to ask.

:) After long hard discussions and analysis on the subject, we just couldn't get the BT holders to fit our design requirements, specifically space. So we bread an ISO/HSK hybrid tool holder.

Hi Alex, Thank you for the quick answer. I have a few more if you don't mind. Where does the air enter this thing and how is it triggered by Mach3? Any PDF manual yet? Can you post a picture of the test/development setup with it all connected to the air supply? Thanks!

David,

In the picture above, all hoses will enter through the slot on the front of the adapter. On the front of the unit, is a "terminal block" for hoses (not seen in picture above). From there, we will be supplying 10ft of hose that will run to the remote solenoid. The user will need to run the supply air to this solenoid, connected with an air hose with a 1/4" female QD.

The solenoid is powered via a 12v adapter (included) with leads that run to your control box, and leads that run to the switch on the spindle itself (for manual tool release). Mach control is the same as switching a relay on and off. If your breakout board output cannot handle 12v (.38A), you will need a NO relay.

Video, manual and pictures are in the works, will get it up here as soon as we can.

Had a few poeple ask ing about the difference between the tool holders. The long toolholders provide an extra 1" of reach.

http://quickspindle.com/images/avqs toolholders1.jpg

Hi Alex,

How's the new spindles going? Any video's yet of your progress? Looking forward to the developement.

Videos, and pics are coming together, and we will get them up as soon as possible.

We did have the preorder deadline set at the end of last week, but will be pushing it until after we have some video up! :)

Whatever software you are utilizing for these 3d images is pretty amazing. I guess I best hit the books and find out what it is... Great job

James

Any Vids yet? Any pics or the real thing?

Hi Alex,
I was wondering if you guys have finished the demo video that shows us salivating Mechmate builders whats on offer with your avenger ATC. If you guys are shipping in January, certainly a promotional video would help seal the deal for me and probably a number of builders here. Waiting, waiting, waiting.....

My apologies for not updating this thread we have been very swamped getting caught up with these spindle.

This update should have been provided awhile ago.

Please bear with us as we make sure everything is in order for this great new product.

Thank you for your answer. I have great respect for a company that makes sure things are done right before releasing a product. I (or should I say "we") patiently await your video/pictures.

Any news on this yet?

Any news or reviews on this item yet?

I'll second that question. I think there must be some serious delays as it is being discussed on CNCzone as well. If I were to venture a guess as to what the delay would be about, I'd say it has something to do with the coupling of the router/spindle to the drive train.

This design is definitely unique, but if the motor shaft of the router/spindle isn't perfectly in line with the shaft of assembly (very difficult to achieve such a perfect alignment), say good bye to your bearings in short order.

I'm am on the hunt for an auto tool change solution. After showing a few spindle Manufactures that make belt driven units the pictures, they all mentioned this as their first comment after I told them what the pictures were. I found a belt driven version that is cheaper but won't fit into the Mechmate design as the motor (any high speed 3phase motor that is inverter driven) has to be next to the tool changer. You could pull it off if you add a second Y-motor to compensate for the mass and move the spider plate to the rear of the cavity it sits in. But, you lose the space for dust collection hose. Decisions, Decisions

Hey all,

We have been fighting the urge to post here, but I do owe you all some news on the Avenger system.

I have refrained from posting any news, videos and pictures until we have smoothed our production delays, and gotten some of these pre-orders up and running. I will, of course, admit that our initial announcement was premature, but we don't want to repeat the mistake by posting more news and videos before we have our delays worked out.

In regard to the coupling system, it was an interesting engineering challenge, but it is one that we feel we have found a solid solution for. More details will be provided for those curious, upon our "official release".

Thank you all for your interest and patience.

Hi Alex,

I'd be happy to see just a simple prototype video that shows that this thing actually works and can take the load of a 50mm cutter surfacing the spoil board, change to a 5mm endmill for drilling, and then, changing over to a 12mm compression spiral for cutting out sheets of 18mm sheet stock. I ready for a tool changer and will be buying one in the next three to four months hopefully.

Do you have a ball park estimate as to when such "production delays" will be sorted out? Do you need an OEM? I have a lot of good contacts in Taiwan and China as well if you are interested.

No rush, just a customer looking for a solution that you may be able to provide.

Thanks

Just giving this a bump. Any news on this? If it really works and is in production I would be interested. So far, looks like a good idea that didn't really work out.

Dave

I found this place doing a retro tool change system on a porter cable router.
It looks interesting.

http://www.midwestrapidtool.com/

Has anybody tried one?

Kenneth

There was someone that had tried this system out - maybe on the ShopBot forum or CNC-Zone? Don't remember.

Anyway, if you're going to spend $3k, why not just get a spindle and be done with it? Using this system, you would still be limited by the cheap bearings/housings of a PC router as well as an underpowered "3" hp universal motor. The whole concept just doesn't make sense to me.

Just my $0.02

Brian
Taxachusetts

The whole idea here was the automatic tool changer. I don't think you can get a spindle with atc for $3K?

Well you could if this thing worked.

Yeah, thats what I meant. :)

Have a read of reply #32 of this thread.

I've seen it. The 2 hp spindle and this changer is what I'm interested in.

Giving this a bump, anyone hear anything? I've been reading through the forums for a couple months now and started gathering parts for my build.

I recieved the mounting brackets and the Spindle holder today in The Netherlands.
Now I can mount my watercooled spindle and later the toolchanger.

What I got is very nice alu. CNC work.
So the rest will be comming soon . . . .

Hans

Just a matter of time before the men in CHINA will come out with a really cost effective ATC. If they can build cheap spindles, an ATC cant be far away. I just hope they don't copy Blurry's and give him some space to sell his unit.

Not to threadjack the thread, but I think the cheapest out there for an atc spindle is between $3700-$4700 plus a vfd and wires from Keiling.

http://www.kelinginc.net/CNCSpindleandController.html

I have not see anyone using these chinese atc units yet. I'm curious how well they work.