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darren salyer Mon 27 October 2014 06:59

Thanks guys.
I'd like to think I'm over the hump with treatment.
I'm cutting some big corbels this week with holes for alignment dowels, 20"x30" 7 layers thick.
This will be my first production vacuum bag glue up...

Robert M Mon 27 October 2014 07:14

I understand and can relate w/you as I cut quite frequently some expensive solid wood glue ups to ! Even through the years, I’m still quite nervous and dble & triple check every time !!
Wishing you prompt recovery.....and back to a solid health !
Looking forward for some pics from this productions run !

racedirector Mon 27 October 2014 07:54

You'll knock it over Darren, remember we have a pact to go to Dan Sawatzky's course one day :)

pblackburn Mon 27 October 2014 08:02

Pictures please on the vacuum gluing. I have only seen it done in manufacturing settings. I am interested in the process you will use.

darren salyer Wed 29 October 2014 13:48

I'll devote the next couple of posts to the corbels I made from 3/4" Extira.
Below is a pic of an individual piece, of which 7 were required for each of 6 brackets.
I bored three 1/2" through holes in 5 of them and a .4" deep blind hole in two of them, one of which had to be mirrored to allow boring the correct side.

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...psdx8syc92.jpg

darren salyer Wed 29 October 2014 13:53

Then, a coat of Titebond 3 was rolled on both faces and a 1/2" alignment dowel driven into each of the three holes before the last piece was laid on. Keep in mind the outside pieces were blind drilled, to keep the dowels from showing.

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5f2vzbhv.jpg

darren salyer Wed 29 October 2014 13:54

Lastly, the sandwich goes into the bag, breather mesh on top, and a 20" vacuum pulled for 1 1/2 hours. 20" is about 1700 lbs. of clamping pressure. Even with the thin layers of glue rolled on, there is squeezeout.

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...psx2xou0ga.jpg

Robert M Wed 29 October 2014 14:42

Nice work....
assuming it's a commission order ??...or is it for you ?!
Any chance you'd be able to take a pic installed ??!
;)

darren salyer Wed 29 October 2014 19:32

These aren't for one of my jobs, but I am going to try to get an address to snap some pics after they are installed and painted.

Robert M Wed 29 October 2014 21:49

That be great !! ;)

Tom Ayres Thu 30 October 2014 04:30

Darren is that a mesh inside the bag? Almost looks as if it was made into the bag itself. I've never used an actual mesh but have used thick leftover fabrics (just keep it out of the glue). I do a lot of vacuum pressing, I'm on my second poly bag now so I guess the fabric works fine.

I bet that corbel has some weight.:)

Robert M Thu 30 October 2014 06:54

..... "Darren is that a mesh inside the bag?"
= " Lastly, the sandwich goes into the bag, breather mesh on top

!!! :p

darren salyer Thu 30 October 2014 07:51

Yes Tom, the mesh is a separate piece that goes in the bag instead of fabric.
Its cheap, reuseable and glue doesn't stick to it.
Heres a link to the page where I bought mine.

http://www.veneersupplies.com/produc...r-MeshNet.html

If you haven't been to this guys site, you should check it out. A wealth of info.
This is where I got the plans and parts to build the vacuum pump from the old compressor I talked about a few pages back.

http://www.joewoodworker.com/veneering/welcome.htm

Tom Ayres Fri 31 October 2014 18:49

I've got one vain type pump and and a self contained compressor type. Does the mesh leave impressions in veneer? One of my bags has a seam near one of the ends and has to be avoided because it telegraphs into the veneer.

darren salyer Fri 31 October 2014 18:51

If it does, I haven't noticed it.

darren salyer Tue 25 November 2014 19:22

Owners sent a couple pics of the finished top.

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5f20jyw0.jpg

darren salyer Tue 25 November 2014 19:22

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...psaum4mj3t.jpg

pblackburn Tue 25 November 2014 19:48

Very nice

Tokamak Tue 25 November 2014 20:27

Man, you sure do some nice work!

Robert M Tue 25 November 2014 20:44

Nicly done !!
Did your beast also rout the top contour profile or was it done by other means ?
;)

pblackburn Tue 25 November 2014 20:51

You definitely are a craftsman. Your work is always inspiring. Something I would like to achieve.

darren salyer Tue 25 November 2014 22:00

Thanks for the kind words, everyone. They provided a new edge profile bit with a bearing, so I routed it with a multipass climb cut using a hand held router. Did NOT want any tear out on the edge.

darren salyer Tue 13 January 2015 18:31

Been in a basement the last few weeks, and part of the build out is a small play area for the owners granddaughter, under the stairs. I'll be doing a small door, window with shutters, and a mailbox that Grandma can leave notes in...

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...psd43522d6.jpg

darren salyer Thu 26 February 2015 07:55

Homeowners were tickled when they came home and found this...

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...pskd1f13fz.jpg

darren salyer Thu 26 February 2015 08:01

These kind of extras are now super simple...
More fun than work, really.

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1ubprkum.jpg

darren salyer Thu 26 February 2015 08:05

Homeowner is planning a piece of foam in the bottom, with some fake flowers to "plant" when the granddaughter comes to visit...
I think this was a free Vectric pattern, that works well on the planter box.

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...psjba043nb.jpg

darren salyer Thu 26 February 2015 08:08

Last one...Drew this "window frame" to put a mirror behind for our hallway at home.
Similar to a Cobblers kids having no shoes, haven't fond time to cut it out.

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...ps53cade59.jpg

Tom Ayres Thu 26 February 2015 08:10

Very nice :)

darren salyer Wed 08 April 2015 07:45

Popped into my local Rockler store last night to pick up a bit I had to have for today...
They have a CNC Shark HD3 there for $4k...25"x25" cutting area... I grabbed the collet and was surprised to find with some effort, I could flex the collet a fair amount in every direction...at least .1"...

Tom Ayres Wed 08 April 2015 08:46

where you expecting quality?


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