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YRD Wed 15 October 2008 11:14

Yes it is.

But not understand the function. Alignment?

Thanks Gerald

Gerald D Wed 15 October 2008 11:48

http://www.mechmate.com/forums/showt...&postcount=143

Used first for safety - the proximity switch (silver colour) senses the hole and stops the movement

Can also be used for electronic alignment (home position)

YRD Wed 15 October 2008 12:19

Wow sorry man :o

YRD Fri 17 October 2008 19:41

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That dirt!

This is the best I could clean. It is possible to apply the Prime ?

Or should I leave the steel cleaner?

smreish Fri 17 October 2008 20:36

...looks ready for primer to me!

gmessler Fri 17 October 2008 20:39

Any more polishing on those pipes and they'd be ready for chrome plating.:D

looking good:)

Marc Shlaes Fri 17 October 2008 20:41

Looks good. Shoot it with clear! :D

Gerald D Fri 17 October 2008 21:50

More than enough grinding, but have you got all the grease off? For me it is more important to wash the grease away with a solvent or a detergent.

YRD Sat 18 October 2008 04:43

Thanks Sean, Greg and Marc. :cool:

Gerald,
Use solvent applied with HVLP.

After tetroxide of lead (Pb3O4).

Then painted in BLUE :D

Gerald D Sat 18 October 2008 05:06

Yuri, spraying solvent and then using a lead paint would be forbidden in countries with strict environmental laws. That is why those countries export their solvents and lead paints to us where we are still allowed to use it.

YRD Sat 18 October 2008 06:10

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Message received and understood Master ;).

Here the law should not allow this application. So I will apply the extra degreasing and degreasing and "Fostatizante" (the latter on rail 76x38mm).

I did not find the translation for "fosfatizante" (composition: inorganic acids, moist, surfactant and a corrosion inhibitor - Corrosive)

All this, since the weldingr passing through painting and completion of the project is new to me. The guidance from you is essential. :o

An application of primer and one or two of paint? :confused:

Gerald D Sat 18 October 2008 07:01

Phosphate coating is good.

For your own experience, why not test some samples? Use pieces of scrap steel and paint them with the process of your choice. When everything is finished, see if you can chip or scrape the paint off. It should not be possible to remove the paint except by grinding, burning or chemicals.

The paint is very important where we attach the gear racks - because they use the paint to hold them to the MM.

gmessler Sat 18 October 2008 08:33

I thought about using a phosphate solution but the directions involved rinsing the parts with water after wetting them down with the solution. Couldn't get my mind past pouring water on a fresh clean sandblasted surface.:confused:

YRD Sat 18 October 2008 10:36

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Applied the phosphate and washed with water.

This is the correct color?

Gerald D Sat 18 October 2008 11:39

I don't use phosphating so I don't know the colour connected with it. To me it looks like there has been some water rust and that is good - there is no grease on there. I would put on the paint now.

YRD Sat 18 October 2008 17:24

Primer
 
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:eek: I have to train more ;)

gmessler Sat 18 October 2008 20:36

Hi Yuri,

Real interesting color. It also looks like you are working in a real cramped space. I thought it was hard to work in my small garage. It must be real tough for you.
:)

Gerald D Sat 18 October 2008 21:37

Yuri, you should not be doing spray painting inside a room like that! Is it not possible for you to go and do it outside somewhere?

The mess is only one of the problems. Normally the final paint makes a much bigger mess than the primer. That paint gets in everywhere and you will not be able to clean it all away.

The biggest danger is your health. You have shown a mask with filters in a picture - I hope that you are wearing it!

But, also be careful of EXPLOSION! That concentration of paint in the air will only need a small spark and then suddenly you will have a much bigger room . . . . :eek:

If you cannot move it outside, the best option is to paint by brush - not by spray.

gmessler Sat 18 October 2008 21:48

gazebo's work well......right J.R.?:D

J.R. Hatcher Sun 19 October 2008 05:54

Several years ago my brother repainted cars. We learned from the local authority that if you paint outside there are no restrictions. No problem with buildup of fumes, and even over-spray is kept to a minimum. We still wear a respirator. It takes about 20 min to setup my cover (gazebo), and it makes everything so much easier. Greg you are sooooo right the gazebo works really good.

YRD Sun 19 October 2008 13:54

Pre-Paint
 
Greg_M, this color is the Primer (in Portuguese Zarcão). I wrote before that contains lead. Wrong. It has no lead or chromate. It contains titanium dioxide.
The space is bigger. I do like to leave things more difficult. ;)


Gerald thanks for the concern. With the mask did not feel any smell of Primer.
I smoke. I have to increase my insurance coverage. :eek:
In this time of year, it may rain at any time. It is not reliable.


JR thanks for the information.
As work alone is difficult.
His work is of high quality. You inspire my job but I do not have the same quality.
Here GuiaCNC Forum in Brazil say that I have two left hands.:rolleyes:

YRD Wed 22 October 2008 17:20

A bit of ink
 
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Alignment.

Well, was not the blue that I wanted to ...

YRD Fri 24 October 2008 18:54

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:eek:

YRD Fri 24 October 2008 21:11

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More pics

Gerald D Fri 24 October 2008 23:08

Good progress!

PEU Sat 25 October 2008 06:09

Oi Yuri, tudo bem?

How do you plan to load sheets once the machine is finished? it seems the extremes are pretty near to the walls. Looking goood!

YRD Sat 25 October 2008 10:51

Ol@ Pablo,

Pretendo carregar o material pela lateral.

Laterally.

YRD Sat 25 October 2008 16:22

Inclination
 
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This inclination is correct?

YRD Sat 25 October 2008 17:00

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Perhaps the solution is:
1 - Using the disk grinding
2 - Add something to make the slope of "X" at 0º

Gerald D Sat 25 October 2008 21:47

Your solution to add something is correct.

YRD Sun 26 October 2008 17:59

Thanks Gerald :)

Is this normal?

What are the solutions?

Gerald D Sun 26 October 2008 22:55

My experience with our steel has been quite good, but we hear quite often of problems around the world. But, even if you leave it at 3 degrees with no correction, you will not see any difference in the final performance of your machine. The cutting quality will be as good, and the life as long, as a machine with 0 degrees. It is your choice of how much time and trouble to spend on correcting a "non-problem".

alexandrealex Mon 27 October 2008 09:15

Yuri, te achei hein.....

Tá ficando bão isto aí hein...

Este detalhe aí, do material, ter este bendito ângulo, que também já me irritou, em materiais aqui do Brasil é normal, infelizmente.

Já fiz um trabalho em Córdoba, Argentina, em que precisei de uma viga desta, e lá ela era perfeita.

Paciência, mas nada que, naum possamos te socorrer.

Hehehehe, afinal você já deu seu "jeitinho brasileiro".

Parabéns, precisando de ajuda é só gritar.

Alexandre Alex - Salvador - Bahia - Brasil.

YRD Mon 27 October 2008 12:14

Thanks Gerald,

If you say it's all right, OK. :cool:

Guys,

This is Alex from Brasil (City of Salvador - Bahia State). He has helped a lot with plenty of tips to build MM.;)


Grande Alex,

Agora vou usar seus conhecimentos aqui no Forum da MM. Bem vindo e espero que você logo crie sua página, construindo uma MM.

YRD Thu 30 October 2008 18:43

Pferd
 
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Now with PFERD. :cool:

It was difficult to find in Brazil.

Much better than Norton. :eek:

Lex Fri 31 October 2008 00:08

Hi Yuri,
You gave me a good idea of clamping and cutting the rails!:cool:
I do not have anything straight and long at home. I think I will get my table ready first and do it like you. I will have to think of assembling it outside first to do the grinding.

YRD Fri 14 November 2008 10:12

Smile 4A - 95 Volts
 
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My electronics.

What you see is how bought. Just turn on the engines. Easy.

Brazilian project. Name of the "drive" Smile 4A / 95 volts :eek::eek::eek::eek: :)

The engines are 70Kgf.cm (approximately)

Although the engines are very large and with reduction 3,6:1 let's see what this drive :) can do.

The engines arrived at 100 º C... :cool:

Easy, in tests of the designer they have already reached more than this.

EMC2 Ubuntu Linux :D

Gerald D Fri 14 November 2008 10:55

9 fans? you had better hold your hat on! :D

This is going to be interesting . . . . tell us more about the 3.6:1 reduction . . . . .

YRD Fri 14 November 2008 11:29

The reduction belt and spindle follow the Project for Fabio Gilii - Atibaia - Brasil

Yes, the Smile 4A is a project fantastic. I hope this helps to overcome problems with the slowness of this motors...

Asked to Rudolf Waller to come up here and explain the project's Smile 4A to us.

YRD Mon 17 November 2008 18:00

Gantry
 
Thanks guys ;)

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=rbcGQItDfnA


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