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smreish Thu 11 June 2009 10:01

Just depends.
The Spring balancer works very well and you can really tune the coil spring to match your load. Down side is it takes up a good deal of room and kills the area in the car for the dust collection. But you can make it work for dustcollection by putting in some elbows or flexpipe to go around the balancer.

Gas strut is just simple - really cheap and elegant.

Gas strut is the way to go unless you need some really long extension stroke.

Gas strut - 20 dollars
spring balancer - 80 dollars.

MAC2009 Tue 29 September 2009 19:40

gass spring??
 
Don't these things tend to push or to push down the spindle, not a lifting motion???
MAC

Gerald D Tue 29 September 2009 20:41

The gas spring naturally wants to extend/lengthen itself. The top of the spring is connected to the z-axis/spindle. The bottom of the spring is anchored/static.

MAC2009 Tue 29 September 2009 21:40

gass spring??
 
YES YES I was looking right it and it didn't sink in the brain fast enough!!

thank you

Mac

jkountz Fri 12 February 2010 09:25

Would this not work??

http://www.mcmaster.com/#9432k64/=5sbzb1

Gerald D Fri 12 February 2010 12:01

That is far too short for the z-axis.

AuS MaDDoG Tue 15 June 2010 05:01

Hi Guys,

I have weighed my Spindle and ally spindle mount which weighed in at
4.737Kg's. I then weighed the machined tool steel spider slide plate with 50x25x3 RHS, rack & Gas strut bracket as well as 4 x bolts, 2 being for the Z stops and 2 for the bracket, weighing 4.668Kg's giving a total of 9.405Kg's.

What I could not weigh was the quick release Steel mounting plate if we use it, as I do not have it yet.
We will also be adding a little more weight with regards to the spindle wiring + spindle cooling + Z axis E-Chain and dust collection, I'm wondering if I should round it up too say 12 Kg's and would this be enough or too much? Would it be too much to also allow for upgrade further down the track for a larger spindle ? or would that exert to much force back onto the motor ? I'm also trying to get my head around what length the gas strut needs to be, to provide maximum travel up and down to suit the 250mm Z axis or is it just a case of measuring the the max and min travel between the tabs?

Any help appreciated!!
Cheers
Tony.

rotorzoomer Tue 15 June 2010 05:58

Struts
 
I will be designing for a 250mm Z-Axis and therefore will be requesting a 250mm Stroke gas strut rated at 15kgs to be on the safe side as per the MM plans. The gassing of these struts to my knowledge is not an exact science so anything in and around 15kgs of force will do.

The issue i am finding is good old Australia is not making these things cheap and it seems that it will cost me around $ 40.00 for one unless someone can give me a heads up on a cheaper alternative.

fabrun Sat 25 September 2010 01:19

1 Attachment(s)
no gas-spring needed with something like this:D

KenC Sat 25 September 2010 02:49

:eek:

Kobus_Joubert Sat 25 September 2010 11:14

Could be used to soften a piece of tough steak :D

sailfl Sat 25 September 2010 13:48

How much more expensive is that???????:rolleyes::eek:

PEU Sun 26 September 2010 11:31

poor roller bearings :)

KenC Sun 26 September 2010 20:58

CNC Oil Rig!

AuS MaDDoG Sun 30 August 2015 04:31

Hi All,

Just for the record, very little MM use over the last 5-6 years but my gas strut failed just the other day by leaking some oil out onto the job I was cutting. Once the file had run and I parked the machine and turned off the power the spindle slowly dropped to the table.
Not a bad lifespan me thinks :-) off to get a new one in the morning.

Cheers
Tony


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