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Gerald D Wed 17 July 2013 11:38

I think you can use the same motor.

parrulho Wed 17 July 2013 19:21

Thank you Gerald, I also think the same...

parrulho Sun 28 July 2013 00:31

finish wiring
 
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Almost finish wiring the machine. "Kitchen" went very well, got motor movement, tuning etc. BUT my motors are pk296a1a and in my head it was pk296a2a. will start underpowered with a power supply of 48V instead of 75V. Not a big deal as also I will start with a small router, 800W. After the first days will go for a spindle and new power supply. "mise en marche" is very soon :D

Gerald D Sun 28 July 2013 01:57

Looks good!

That long "printer" cable between the PC and the control box is a little worry - keep it away from power cables.

KenC Sun 28 July 2013 02:02

that black thingy is steel on all 3 of my 2.2kw water cooled spindles.

isladelobos Sun 28 July 2013 07:37

Nice!!! work.

parrulho Sun 28 July 2013 19:50

Yes, the printer cable is very long. I prefer the computer at the other side of the table. that cable served me during years in a plotter without problems.. let see how it goes. (I have a short one at hand, just in case :)

parrulho Tue 30 July 2013 11:59

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not another gecko but a iguana :D

isladelobos Tue 30 July 2013 16:42

Hehehe.

Your new machinist.

Paulo, your island żis part of Netherlands antilles? because i see in wikipedia after 2010 this change.

parrulho Tue 30 July 2013 22:44

We got more autonomy but still part of the Netherlands kingdom.

parrulho Thu 01 August 2013 20:54

real fun begin!
 
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IT CUTS!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

as it should be. I dont have small bits to show more detailed cuts, need to go out...Thank you all members contributing to this forum full off good information. Special thanks to Gerald, everybody knows why and Mike, metalhead for his support.

when my workshop is more "presentable" I'll put more photos of the finalized machine.

A fine wine (1965) for a fine machine! :)

CHEERS!!!

alan254 Fri 02 August 2013 04:46

first cuts are always rewarding and motivating

good cutting


al

Tom Ayres Fri 02 August 2013 04:56

Good job! Pat yourself on the back.

darren salyer Fri 02 August 2013 05:30

Great job. Now you will find ways to use your machine you never would have considered at the beginning of your journey.

Andrew_standen Fri 02 August 2013 11:44

Congratulations , good luck with your cutting

HomeMadeCnc Fri 02 August 2013 12:35

Congratulations! This machine will change your life for the better.
Cheers

zumergido Fri 02 August 2013 18:42

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Originally Posted by HomeMadeCnc View Post
Congratulations! This machine will change your life for the better.
Cheers
mmm i dont agree that much.. now. have to learn, mach3, vectric, corel, solidwork, scketchup, how not burn bits. how to explain that this machine can make the sixteen chapeel but it will be very difficult, and you won't do it. :D:D

mechmate is a endless universe to learn.

Robert M Fri 02 August 2013 20:32

"mechmate is a endless universe to learn. "
Just that....isn't it a beauty by it self :rolleyes:
Robert....:D

KenC Sat 03 August 2013 00:43

Congrats!
You can put solidworks & sketchup in the back seat for now. It will be more efficient learning if you concentrate on your 2.5D cutting 1st.
My software learning recommandation priority list as follows:
1) Mach3
2) 2D Cad
3) Vectrice
4) 2.5D stuff
99) 3D modeling.

zumergido Sat 03 August 2013 22:50

hi ken. you should put "how not to burn bits" in second place. :rolleyes:

parrulho Sun 04 August 2013 09:33

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Thank you for all recommendations and nice words. Still have a lot to learn. Already did some mistakes but is from mistakes you learn more... here is one of the first mistakes... I mean: cuts :)

Video link: http://db.tt/HzoaHUGX

HomeMadeCnc Wed 07 August 2013 10:06

Don't forget www.thermwood.com ecabinet systems.

digger Fri 09 August 2013 17:52

Tim
How you can use ecabinet with mach3?

Milosh

hevertg Wed 28 August 2013 23:02

As meters
 
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Got it from ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Cable-drag...item3a5e71bd8b

received a different cable chain but I did not complain because I liked it...

Quality is good but he asks $30 extra for shipping...
As meters of chain I need for my mechmate? is 3000 * 2200 mm

parrulho Sun 01 September 2013 09:12

First upgrade on my machine: a new power supply. went from 48V to 73V measured. Now it can moves on max velocity without losing steps but to be honest I don't "feel" more torque. I still can move the gantry pushing it a bit hard. Well it should be normal... Have cut some complete 4x8 board, ply and MDF and small jobs and I'm very happy with the quality. still waiting to get more mill bits. In Curacao it is difficult to find and very expensive. Then I needed to stop. A LOT OF SAWDUST!!! :) Have installed a small shopvac and it is helping. still busy experimenting with different dust shoes. I'm using 40mm pipe and it's works for now. Will post some pics later.

HomeMadeCnc Sun 01 September 2013 09:25

Hi Milosh, you export your job from ecabnets in dxf . I use aspire to convert the dxf drawings to gcode.

Cheers All!

timberlinemd Mon 02 September 2013 19:32

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Hi Milosh, you export your job from ecabnets in dxf . I use aspire to convert the dxf drawings to gcode.

Cheers All!
There is no export ability to dxf in eCab???

parrulho Tue 03 September 2013 17:45

Just to report that I have changed limit resistors on geckos from 12.8K (calculated by formula) to 20K. that way I have more holding torque. Had some problems on Z, I'm using a lighter router Kress 800W, temporary, and the gas strut is pushing it up hard, it's is 30lb, for a spindle. Sometimes when I'm changing tools I lose Z zero. During the cut, no problems. let see if the motors do not get too hot...

hevertg Tue 03 September 2013 22:11

Bits
 
http://www.woodmagazine.com/woodwork...t-overheating/
Want to prevent those annoying burn marks that leave your routed edges black and your face red? Keep cool by putting the following tips to work.

Keep it clean
Ideally, you should wipe your bits clean after each use. Most of us, though, just drop them back in their holders and walk away. Unfortunately, resins and dust build up that cause bits to get hotter faster, making them more likely to burn the wood. If your bits are covered with sawdust, wipe them with a dry cloth. Remove the stubborn build-up with a blade-and-bit cleaner. The benefit: Clean bits stay sharp longer because excessive heat breaks down carbide cutters.

Stay sharp



A dull bit cuts poorly and builds up heat doing so. If you can run the cutter over your fingernail without shearing off ashaving, then your bit needs sharpening.
To freshen up router bit cutting edges with diamond lapping stones, hone only the flat surfaces. Count your strokes to make sure you remove the same amount of material from each cutter to keep the bit balanced. It only takes a half-dozen or so strokes with each stone. If that doesn't restore cutting ability, have the bit sharpened by a pro or replace it.

Set speed limits


Router bits spin up to 24,000 revolutions per minute (rpm). And most bits have two cutters, so they take up to 48,000 bites every minute. Think of it that way and you see why bits and wood heat up in a hurry. To keep things cool, set your router speed according to the chart, below right. If your router doesn't have variable speed, you can get a plug-in controller for less than $25. (Check your local retailer or contact MLCS at 800/533-9298; mlcswoodworking.com.)You can keep heat in check too by controlling how fast you feed the bit into the workpiece. A slow feed rate generates more heat. Use a fast and consistent feed rate to keep the bit and wood cool.

Watch your woods

Some woods, such as oak, don't easily burn. Maple and cherry burn notoriously because of their density and the oils and extractives they contain. Among softwoods, pine can be troublesome in areas that contain pitch pockets. With these species, slow the router and increase feed rate to minimize burning.

Take it one step at a time

Powerful routers and sharp carbide-tipped bits are capable of hogging out large cuts in even the hardest of woods. But doing so stresses the bit, causes tear-out, and leads to burning. When removing more than 1/4" of material, make multiple shallow passes.

parrulho Fri 06 September 2013 00:34

Thank you for advices and title, my machine deserves a number :)

timberlinemd Fri 06 September 2013 18:57

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Thank you for advices and title, my machine deserves a number :)
Yes it does. Where is Metal Head?

parrulho Sat 07 September 2013 11:44

Still limit resistors on Geckos:

using 20 KΩ instead of 12.8 KΩ calculated by formula - Motors are always hot, cutting or idle is the same, you can let your hand over it for long time but too hot for my peace of mind... My decision is to change back resistors on drivers running X and Y to 12.8 KΩ and 18 KΩ on Z temporary...

Let's see.

MetalHead Mon 09 September 2013 10:29

I have been MIA for a few days.

Congrats and you get #108

parrulho Mon 09 September 2013 10:43

Thank you Mike.:)

darren salyer Mon 09 September 2013 20:13

Great job!!!

Andrew_standen Tue 10 September 2013 03:56

Congratulations number 108 from number 109

parrulho Tue 10 September 2013 21:34

thanks 109 :) same for you. hey, I like a lot your kayak, I m thinking to build one for myself.

KenC Wed 11 September 2013 00:57

Me likey kayak. :D

Andrew_standen Wed 11 September 2013 02:32

Kayak was built from plans see Redfish kayaks, "return" model.
Took about 300 hours to complete. total cost about 625 uk pounds. including cost of the plans.
Weight 22kgs length 5.8mtrs .. and it was fast on the water.

jhiggins7 Wed 11 September 2013 07:33

Updated Builder's Log
 
Paulo,

Congratulations on your MechMate and earning Serial Number 108.

Here's the Updated Builder's Log with your entry added.

Sorry to be tardy, but I was on a Cruise in your beautiful Caribbean.


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