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obuhus Sun 06 December 2009 00:52

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And it is my relay board and its scheme.

riesvantwisk Sun 06 December 2009 06:24

@Gerald & Dmitry,

I think I did see that the shielding of the control (BoB to Drivers) is attached to the cooling plate of the drivers, I cannot enlarge the picture to confirm. it would be better to ground (put on the 0V side) the shielding on the Bob side.

if you want we can discuss this on a other thread, I am far from a authority though in this subject and haven't been doing electronics design for over 12 years.

Ries

obuhus Thu 14 January 2010 07:24

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@Gerald & Dmitry,

I think I did see that the shielding of the control (BoB to Drivers) is attached to the cooling plate of the drivers, I cannot enlarge the picture to confirm. it would be better to ground (put on the 0V side) the shielding on the Bob side.

if you want we can discuss this on a other thread, I am far from a authority though in this subject and haven't been doing electronics design for over 12 years.

Ries
Greetings, Ries.

I do not understand, what problems? Try to draw a wiring scheme of it.

riesvantwisk Thu 14 January 2010 08:33

Dmitriy,

shielding of signal cables should be done at the signal source, in this case on the BoB (PMDX) side, not on the gecko side.

Shielding the signal cable on the cooling plate of the gecko driver might even introduce more nasty effects (EMI) because usually this ground is what's called dirty.

Since the ground of the power supply is attached there, and the gecko's are connected to the power supply (high current) this might introduce more EMI then not shielding at all.
Also EMI in the ground plate might come from external interferences outside of the box it's not 0V! and might contain any other fluctuations from for example plasma welders, drills, saws etc.. So don't use a dirty ground for shielding signal cables.

Beside, from computer tot BoB is electrically connected, but from BoB to Gecko it's isolated using opto couplers (on the gecko side) . So it's best to keep this circuit as much separated as possible.

Lastly, and this is what gerald also mentioned, reducing EMI in your signal cables can also be archived by:

1) Not lying the signal cables and high power cables (110V, gecko power, stepper cables) close next to eachother in one line, it might look better, but it can introduce a lot of EMI in signal cables. Lay thm as far away from each other as possible, left, rights side of your control box for example and in separate cable ducts to insure separation.


2) If you do need to cross (in space) signal cables then do so in a 90 degree fashion, so
they cables don't 'see' each other. This technique is also frequently used in RF circuits where coils need to be layed out 90degrees from each-other to minimize interference.




Ries

obuhus Thu 14 January 2010 09:06

Ries, many thanks for a competent substantiation. I think, already soon I can check up it in practice :) And unnecessary contact pieces to cut off is never late.

Dmitry

obuhus Tue 27 April 2010 08:56

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27-04-2010.
Greetings to all builders MechMate.

After a long break I had a possibility to continue work on the machine tool. Result on a photo.

obuhus Tue 27 April 2010 09:01

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27-04-2010
Time has come to take in hands this...

Kobus_Joubert Tue 27 April 2010 09:47

I like the wind-up piece between the table legs.:D
Is RED the official colour of MM's in Russia.... looking smart

Those Motion King's are looking good on the belt reduction

obuhus Tue 27 April 2010 10:03

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Is RED the official colour of MM's in Russia.... looking smart
Red and Cherry :)

timon Tue 27 April 2010 10:42

Дмитрий молодцом !!! Я с товарищем такой же собираю. Ток покрашу по другому.

Dmitry the good fellow!!! I with a companion same collect !!!Only I will paint on another))))))

domino11 Wed 28 April 2010 21:00

Nice Work Dmitriy!

KenC Wed 28 April 2010 21:47

Almost there! Keep it up!

MetalHead Thu 29 April 2010 07:06

Looking Great !!!! Keep up the great work !!!

cvriv.charles Thu 29 April 2010 22:02

Your shop is scary:eek:

liaoh75 Wed 05 May 2010 22:24

Dmitriy, your build is looking real good. Those belt drives are nice and looks like a very polished design.

Charles, I was just about to say the same thing but my shop looked a little like that until I cleaned it out. I'm sure a fresh coat of paint on the wall would make a huge difference.

obuhus Wed 02 June 2010 08:01

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Greetings to all!

It seems, I have finished a layer pad of wires "on a paper". Here my scheme of MM
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4301/..._aaae94db_orig

javeria Wed 02 June 2010 23:16

Dmitriy, what software did you use to draw out this layout, I haven't gone thru the circuit- but a good effort i feel.

obuhus Thu 03 June 2010 00:00

Hi, Irfan.
One of my trades - the designer. Therefore I professionally own Corel Draw and Adobe Phonoshop. In most cases I use these programs - for me so more conveniently and easier. Also I use AutoCad and many other programs.

javeria Thu 03 June 2010 00:27

Thank you Dmitriy, now you can cut those beautiful designs on corel with the MM

PEU Thu 03 June 2010 17:59

That drawing should be part of the mechmate parts, beautifully done!

obuhus Fri 04 June 2010 05:02

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As I did relay and laser boards. The small instruction in pictures.

Sergio-k Fri 04 June 2010 09:55

Dmitriy that's a professional job you've done there, congratulations.
I'm thinking of buying a Roland allready :D

vishnu Fri 04 June 2010 11:22

I think we have more Pro's than Rookies here, very nice work. Keep going :)

smreish Fri 04 June 2010 13:49

...or you can ask one of the members that has a MM already to machine the single layer board for you and not have to touch the chemicals! Just thinking....:)

obuhus Wed 30 June 2010 07:48

30-06-2010
It is finished "kitchen table" and I have seen the first movement of the motor of my MM.

Link to video (30Mb)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUHlVGlatcA

obuhus Wed 30 June 2010 08:07

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And a few photo of my "kitchen table"

smreish Wed 30 June 2010 12:29

Very clean and well executed. Look at that custom standoff!

obuhus Wed 07 July 2010 21:42

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08-07-2010.
Small progress in building.

vishnu Wed 07 July 2010 21:45

Nice clean design & execution, would love to see them kick dust.

Vishnu

Gerald D Wed 07 July 2010 23:40

That is very neat!

MetalHead Thu 08 July 2010 05:59

Man that looks awesome. Cool work on the circuit board.

JamesJ Thu 08 July 2010 16:59

Looks great, care to share the circuit?

Gerald D Thu 08 July 2010 20:34

Look at his 2 June post.

JamesJ Thu 08 July 2010 21:53

Thanks

obuhus Fri 09 July 2010 04:21

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Greetings to all!

I am very glad that my work was pleasant to you. I have a little changed the scheme and have checked up on the mi MM, all works.
Here I spread the total scheme, it is possible to someone will help.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3416/..._daf95000_orig

Success to all in building MM!

obuhus Fri 09 July 2010 04:27

I have excluded button E-stop on Z-car. I think it difficultly to use, when the spindle is in the table centre. To reach edge Y-car much easier.

Gerald D Fri 09 July 2010 05:33

Sometimes we are walking on top of the big table while the machine is working, that is why we have buttons on the small car.

smreish Fri 09 July 2010 06:33

...and when the machine is cutting near the end of the table (where most small part work happens) the Car based Estop and control buttons are essential to daily operation. Actually, come to think of it, I can't remember the last time I used the end buttons!

Just my 2 cents.

obuhus Thu 30 September 2010 10:02

Z-axiz on linear bearings and the ball screw
 
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Greetings to all again.

After long think and experiments I have stopped on this variant of mine Z-axiz. E-bay - a great thing! I have bought there linear bearings and the ball screw.

Full travel of mine Z-axiz makes 250 mm. I plan to process on the 4-axiz details to 500 mm in diameter.

cncb Thu 30 September 2010 10:38

That's one heavy duty z axis!


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