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Doug_Ford Fri 14 March 2008 11:01

Mickey,

Be very careful moving those beams when you get the legs attached. They are extremely top heavy and will flop over if you get one leg off the ground. That much weight flopping around is really dangerous. If I was moving them by myself, I would probably just drag them around with the legs sticking up in the air. Good luck.

If you'll send me an airline ticket, I'll be happy to come over and hang out in the beautiful French countryside and help you for as long as you like.:D:D

Greg J Fri 14 March 2008 12:30

Agree with Doug,

It was moving my channels around that I strained "something". I built a grantry crane soon after that. My grantry crane is a joy to have.

bbreaker Fri 14 March 2008 12:53

i agree with you but it's not a concrete floor to go to the MM house i've got a towrope, do you think it's better ?

Doug_Ford Fri 14 March 2008 14:33

I do not think it has anything to do with the floor. It is the fact that the all the weight of the beam is one meter above the floor. So when you pick up one end, the other end tries to swing toward the earth. You cannot stop it because you have a very heavy beam in your hand and you are at the opposite end. Also, if you just try to set your end down, that won't stop it from swinging because the swinging has already started and the leg on your end of the beam is now quickly swinging out at 45 degrees. That is a lot of weight swinging around when you are by yourself. You might be thinking, I'll just drop it if it starts to swing. You might be able to but it happens very quickly and if there is something behind you, you might not be able to get out of the way fast enough.

Once you get the legs on a beam, see if you can get a friend to come over for 5 minutes so you can move it. Then you will know what Greg and I are talking about.

I think you should lay it down on the floor and drag it to the MM house if you have no other help. Good luck.

Marc Shlaes Fri 14 March 2008 16:04

Good description Doug. That sounds like you had the s--t scared out of you!

Doug_Ford Fri 14 March 2008 21:56

Absolutely Marc. I didn't break any bones but I strained some muscles a couple of times. I'm a slow learner.

bbreaker Sat 15 March 2008 01:48

I think, I think, i have to found a friend, but this is only 6 mounth i've moved house, I can't count friend's on one hand, let's the force be with me ;).

My first idear is to transport it but not at the end of the beam but the center, the ground is very loud and i think, the wheel can penetrate the ground about 1" and make a rail in ground, my second problem is the door of the MM house and the place in it to move the Beam.

Thank's for your comment, i found a tips to move it without trouble.

Gerald D Sat 15 March 2008 03:01

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Mickey, the safest way to move it, is to have the main weight low down. That means with the legs pointing up to the sky, like you have it in your photo. You say the wheels are only for moving once? Well then, put the wheels on the "wrong" side. Put the wheels where you will screw the x-rails one day.


bbreaker Sat 15 March 2008 03:59

ooops, i mean you don't understand me, the legs with the wheel was on the ground, when i transport it to the MM house, i use whell to support the weight of the beam along the travel and move it to the correct place in MM house and after i use a car leveler to left the MM off the floor and take out the wheel.

Gerald D Sat 15 March 2008 05:32

That's okay Mickey, I am sure that there are a lot of things being misunderstood because of the language. :)

Anyway, we only want to give you lots of ideas and you can make your own choices about what could work for you.

Have a great week end, and don't kill yourself! :D

bbreaker Fri 02 May 2008 08:23

some news from galgan
 
it's time to let you know my progress, i've welded the gantry cut and drill the X and Y rail, welded the table support, painting Y car, spider plate and motor plate and i start beveling the rail next week.
I post some pictures soon.

Gerald D Fri 02 May 2008 08:43

Middle March I said . . . .

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Originally Posted by Gerald D View Post
Have a great week end, and don't kill yourself! :D
. . . . . . then Mickey vanishes . . . .

Today he appears like a phantom.

Welcome back! Good to hear of the progress! :)

bbreaker Thu 22 May 2008 13:16

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hi there, some news, i've finished Y car and Z axis, all painted, i'm out of wire in my MIG welder and i go with Stick now, i've started to grind Y rail and i think finished the gantry next week.

Gerald, i haven't moved the beam yet, i have to make the second side Legs Weld, paint and after i move it. I've got a lot of Homework, I've started some work on my house to start a B&B "Gîte" in french.

Some picture of my last work

bbreaker Sat 24 May 2008 02:30

Y-car fully assembled, rail grind started
 
this day i've made the first side grind of rail's, i start the second side this afternoon, start gantry and clamp strip sand.

smreish Sat 24 May 2008 07:16

Looks like very professional progress. Bravo!

Marc Shlaes Sat 24 May 2008 11:33

Hey Mickey. Great Job! Good to see those pictures.

Greg J Sat 24 May 2008 20:08

Mickey,

Gotta like that MM blue. :)

Nice work.

bbreaker Mon 26 May 2008 01:52

X and Y rail Grind complete
 
This morning i've finished rail's grind, i cut it to the right lenght and weld stop block's this morning, start painting the gantry this week and finished the beam support. (i see the finish point ;) )

domino11 Mon 26 May 2008 07:49

Mickey ,
You build is coming along great. :) Keep up the pictures.

bbreaker Mon 26 May 2008 13:47

This day First coat of paint on the gantry and clamp strip, seconde tomorrow morning with some picture's.

bbreaker Tue 27 May 2008 12:48

gantry paint finished, stop block welded, first coat on Y rail's, picture tomorrow. :)

bbreaker Wed 28 May 2008 12:45

Picture and Video of Gantry + Y Car
 
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some picture's and 1 video.

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=npSXMeRYW0A

isladelobos Thu 29 May 2008 06:50

Good video Mickey, it seems very light.

bbreaker Thu 29 May 2008 11:40

I saw The Finish line
 
some news this day, finished to weld the second beam support, wel and paint the cable chain support and paint. tomorrow is the beam and suport painting day, i think this weekend i moved the beam's to my workshop and start assembly.

bbreaker Fri 30 May 2008 03:00

beam support painting finished
 
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some picture of these morning, i start main beam's and cross support beam's painting tomorrow

smreish Fri 30 May 2008 06:05

Nice blue heavy steel.

bbreaker Sat 31 May 2008 04:18

this day i've finished one beam with leg's, painted some cross beam's and start painting the second beam, i moved it tommorow to my workshop with a friend, ( i follow your recommandetion and i've got a lumbago from one week ago just finished) :D

Gerald D Sun 01 June 2008 05:12

Tomorrow we have 2 cases of lumbago in France - Mickey & friend. :)

bbreaker Sun 01 June 2008 13:50

i'm alive without lumbago !!!!!
 
it's ok, we will move beam's without trouble, i take picture's tomorrow, and i start beam drill and tap.

bbreaker Sat 07 June 2008 11:35

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some news of these day's, beam's are drilled an tapped, side tube are fixed and tomorrow a friend help me to put the gantry on the angle iron and put the Y-car.



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