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Kobus_Joubert Sun 25 December 2011 22:55

Check your table OFFSET. It needs to be a bit longer on one side to compensate for the rouer / spindle to reach each edge.

marko cro Thu 05 January 2012 04:47

Hello again,

I was wondering what thickness of the cable should I use for drivers? I have a several options, but dont want to overkill it.
What should be the profile of the cables.
About offset, did you mean the offset of the spindle? Here is the pic which could help.
I think I should move it more towards the end.
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5151/kranb.jpg

baseball43v3r Thu 05 January 2012 07:14

Marko, notice how the router does not sit in the center of the y-car. The table offset means that one end of the table needs more clearance than the other (ie the beams need to be longer) to be able to reach the end of your cutting area.

As to your answer on cable thickness I believe this thread holds the answers. http://mechmate.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2

but its usually around 18 AWG. (i think)

aniljangra Thu 05 January 2012 07:26

I made that mistake and later had to weld small pieces of beams to the ends :) thankfully I did not cut the rails to exact length of beams before I noticed the mistake.

danilom Thu 05 January 2012 12:45

You can use 4 core shielded, 1.0mm2 - 0.75mm2 per core for motors.
For the spindle 1.5-2.0mm2 should be sufficient

marko cro Tue 21 February 2012 04:49

Finally all the parts are here.
Just waiting to my shoulder to get better and welding will begin.

http://www.pohrani.com/t/1b/Ct/1JsCx...9568427791.jpg
http://www.pohrani.com/t/O/pn/2f4mg0...9569320626.jpg
http://www.pohrani.com/t/43/AM/v2t5n...9569352864.jpg

Axel1966 Tue 06 March 2012 14:42

Very Nice 3D views ! I wish mine looks as good as yours.
Pre-mounting in 3D helps me a lot in the understanding of the MM pinciples.
I wish you the best for your build ! :)

marko cro Wed 07 March 2012 02:05

Thank you,

And it really does help a lot when you have something build in 3d, its much easier to understand where and how things go and connect.
With SW, i can determine the weight, very accurate measures so it can fit perfectly to the workshop.

marko cro Sun 18 March 2012 11:02

Drilling has started, and some new parts arrived.
design
http://www.pohrani.com/f/o/Up/3sYYuhW6/nosac.png
Cant beat the real look.
http://www.pohrani.com/f/9/Ub/1PTaNtfv/nosac-2.jpg
http://www.pohrani.com/f/1H/A7/48hbB...2064970976.jpg

Axel1966 Sun 18 March 2012 13:54

Is there any benefit to use anti-vibrations feets instead of 100% metal ones ?

marko cro Sun 18 March 2012 14:29

Dont know, but there is an option to add rubber bottom on these feets. If the vibrations turns out to be a problem.

Gerald D Sun 18 March 2012 20:31

Most people use them because they look sexy. Firm contact to the floor would be better in terms of cut quality. However, they reduce vibrations transmitted to the floor and reduce noise.

Axel1966 Mon 19 March 2012 01:45

Good ! The cutting quality is the main goal, so I'll save money with simple feets,
which are 4 times cheaper. Thanks.

marko cro Mon 19 March 2012 03:23

Gerald, I have a question in private for you, but cant send you message.
Can we get in contact in any other way than this?

marko cro Thu 29 March 2012 16:15

This is planning side ladder and fixing it up.
Below is my 1st weld done on that ladder. My experience in welding has reached for about 3-4 days, 1-2 hours per day. So I am pretty proud on that weld.
Rest of the welding is in the same or similar quality :D
http://s17.postimage.org/cqgtix3un/image.jpg
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http://s17.postimage.org/mcezcyke7/image_1.jpg
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TechGladiator Fri 30 March 2012 17:25

Good Job there Marko. Starting to take shape.!!

darren salyer Sat 31 March 2012 06:26

Very nice work!!

bolingerbe Sat 31 March 2012 07:41

Good job.

marko cro Sun 01 April 2012 03:51

I was wondering where is my thread :)
Thank you all,
Today all the front and side ladder will be finished, then moving on to the assembly it with trestle.
Will post more pics at the end of the day.

Axel1966 Sun 01 April 2012 12:03

Well(d) done !
You have some nice tools to clamp tubes squared.

marko cro Sun 01 April 2012 14:14

Thanks,

That tool made my life much easier. Regreted tho for not buying 8 of them :D
Here are some pics from today work done. I have put it together just to get perspective. And it looks massive.
http://www.pohrani.com/f/2t/qb/3MrpZ...2032814230.jpg
http://www.pohrani.com/f/13/qE/aUQMR...2040121204.jpg
http://www.pohrani.com/f/3f/5T/4i4iS...2040121223.jpg
After working its important to clean the work area, coz my workshop is a bit small :(
http://www.pohrani.com/f/2R/e8/3gkHq...2040121285.jpg
Resting proudly at work being done
http://www.pohrani.com/f/2R/e8/3gkHq...2040121285.jpg

marko cro Wed 11 April 2012 09:51

DIY aluminium control box. To build it, I had to make a tin knocker/bender, which is made from MM parts. Proof of concept, and it works.
Control box needs back enforcement in the back panel with some 150x150x15 aluminum plates. Heating wont be an issue here :D .
Holes and ventilation will be drilled additionally. But so far, a decent box.
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...lopataos/1.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...lopataos/2.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...lopataos/3.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...lopataos/4.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...lopataos/5.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...lopataos/7.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...lopataos/8.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...lopataos/9.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...opataos/10.jpg
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...opataos/11.jpg

WTI Wed 11 April 2012 09:56

I think it would have been cool to put a piece of tempered glass in the face of your door.

marko cro Wed 11 April 2012 10:02

Yes, tempered glass for a spindle controller, and a hole for a digital thermometer.
Also, for buttons, and E switch.
Thanks for noticing :D

Pajka Wed 11 April 2012 10:35

Great work marko!

KenC Wed 11 April 2012 20:13

Nice box.
With the VFD in such close proximity to the motor drivers, I hope you have good grounding lay up later.

IN-WondeR Thu 12 April 2012 13:24

There's no problem in having a VFD that close to the drives.
My old machine was also mounted close to the drives, I had no noise what so ever from the VFD..

My new machine has 15cm more distance to the drives, and again, absolutely no problems with noise.

marko cro Thu 12 April 2012 15:13

Not sure will I have noise, but I was thinking of making additional box for spindle control, with air flow connected IN and OUT to outside of the workshop, due the dust accumulation.
In the calibration phase, I shall see if there will be noise.
Also, I am looking for a good plan for a spindle mount, which should be made of aluminum.
EDIT: I am looking for cutting aluminum, how does a MM act in engraving and cutting aluminium.
Does my spindle speed @ 24000 RPM is 2 much to cut it. Would be the Z-car too light for a aluminium, and should I fill it with sand :).

smreish Thu 12 April 2012 19:53

Marko,
Many have successfully cut aluminum on a regular basis. One machine, a 8' x 21' machine was built to cut primarily alum sheet for a boat manufacturing business here in the US.

marko cro Fri 13 April 2012 08:25

Hi Sean, Thank you for your post. The plan was to work with aluminium and wood, and some softer materials, and lately, i was starting to doubt the MM can work on aluminium.
I saw some videos and I think I will be fine in that area.


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