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Old Sun 08 March 2015, 07:36
lonestaral
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C.N.C. Lathe

I have built a few woodturning lathes over the years.
I am thinking of building a C.N.C Lathe.
Something like 1M between centers, 6" dia work.

I have 3 nema 23 motors and control board from my first mill.
I made a 6:1 reduction drive yesterday and it seems to work well.

I also have a headstock and tailstock from my current lathe

Some of you have made lathes before, so the question is did you do your own design or use existing plans ?
Any information, tips, or pitfalls to avoid.

Horizontal or slant bed ?

Front or rear tooling ?

Horizontal or vertical bedway ?

If I did my own design based on the MechMate and wanted to log my build on this forum would there be any objections from Metalhead ?

Let me know please.
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Old Sun 08 March 2015, 17:43
smreish
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Orlando, Florida
United States of America
The very first MM in the USA was a MM Lathe.....
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Old Mon 09 March 2015, 09:52
islaww
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UP of Michigan
United States of America
Al....
Are you referring to an indexer (cnc incremental positioning of the rotary axis) or a true lathe (cnc knife cutting between centers on a true lathe bed)?

I have done both.

Lathe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=126hNJ9CEi0

Indexer/Lathe combo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrHzP4FWOSc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-5_ZMINDEU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yznJrzd730

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPp1itlsbnI
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Old Mon 09 March 2015, 20:01
lonestaral
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Thank you for the links GC.
I will watch them later.
I want to build a true lathe.
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Old Thu 12 March 2015, 08:19
Robert M
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Lac-Brome, Qc
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Hi Gary,

It always been interesting seeing your CNCing jigs, tools & "toys" !
like this new indexer version, care to share more photos and info so we can be inspired & see the feasibility in making one ?!
Tks
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Old Thu 12 March 2015, 12:17
islaww
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UP of Michigan
United States of America
Robert...
Thanks. This project is a cnc wood turning lathe, not an indexer. The 2 terms are often confused. An indexer will incrementally turn a blank between the centers for cutting with a router/spindle, but steppers will not have the power to spin a blank at speed to enable knife cutting.

I almost always have addition info and pics of most of my projects in my "Locker Room" section of the CAMHeads Forum: http://www.camheads.org/forumdisplay.php?f=113

I usually post there most of the info that I am willing to share. Based on consumer interest, many of my projects end up as commercial products in one form or another, so often fine details are omitted. That said, as a "do it yourselfer", I post these projects to possibly get others off the couch and into building their versions. Most DIY guys don't budget as high for components as I do, so most of my specs and research wouldn't apply.
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Old Thu 12 March 2015, 14:57
Robert M
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Thanks for your reply and the link Gary, but yes, I was correctly referring to your indexer, not the lath, although your indexer may not be the latest...new toy !!
I'll register to Cam heads and see from there, thks
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Old Thu 12 March 2015, 16:59
darren salyer
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Wentzville mo
United States of America
Registering at the Camheads forum is worth doing.
I went to an Aspire camp at Jim McGrews last year hoping to check out Garys lathe in person, but he was unable to attend.
At the dinner the night before the official camp started, we were talking machines and I hesitantly said I own a self built MM, thinking I might be poo-poohed, but The Camaster guys were very complimentary of the MM.
Great group of guys there, just like here.

Edited to add: If I ever upgrade, the Camaster would be top of the list. Very well built machines.
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Old Mon 16 March 2015, 06:56
lonestaral
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Well, I tried to register at Camheads to look at the photos.
Failed because the answer to the question about the 16th President was not in the correct format.(you must be joking, was not acceptable)
Might have well as asked, who was the 16th King of England.
Looks as if I will have to do my way.
Thanks anyway.
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Old Mon 16 March 2015, 07:39
Robert M
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Lac-Brome, Qc
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Al.....what is this, you among many....Mr determination .....letting it go, letting it "frustrate"...for such a little mistake of yours
I got in easy....you should get too
Comm'on al....
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Old Mon 16 March 2015, 11:45
hennie
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Roodepoort JHB
South Africa
Al. Go and have a look at my thread no. 23. Made my own stand alone.Did own drawings.
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Old Sat 16 May 2015, 06:20
lonestaral
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Coming along

Coming along slowly.
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Old Sat 16 May 2015, 07:40
darren salyer
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Wentzville mo
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Very nice work as usual, Al.
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Old Sat 16 May 2015, 07:57
Robert M
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This look very nice…..and promising !!
Looking forward for more pics and some of your work from it !!
Congrats…
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Old Mon 25 May 2015, 06:50
lonestaral
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Update.

Motors wired and working.
I had a problem with only one motor working .

It turned out to be a printer cable problem.
One pin had pushed back, sorted.

On to the homing switches and e stop.
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Old Wed 27 May 2015, 13:31
Fox
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Amsterdam
Netherlands
Nice work
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Old Fri 29 May 2015, 09:06
fanefane
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Baia Mare
Romania
I've generated the G-Code with Powermill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABC0ZT0KOnY
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Old Fri 29 May 2015, 21:09
darren salyer
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Wentzville mo
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Absolutely gorgeous work Stefan. Did that leg really take less than a half hour to make, or was there time lapse involved?
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Old Sat 30 May 2015, 08:21
lonestaral
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Thanks for the video Stefan.
Superb job on a superb machine.

My own workings will be much more mundane.

Homing switches and E stop wired and working.
Movement and reference
Very impressed how smooth and quiet the 6:1 reduction drives are.
Cables cut to length, ends soldered.
More to do tomorrow.
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Old Sat 30 May 2015, 12:57
Alan_c
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Cape Town (Western Cape)
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Nice machine Stefan, is it a self build? do you have it documented somewhere?
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Old Sun 31 May 2015, 06:29
fanefane
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Baia Mare
Romania
The CNC is made by myself,

Stepper Motor :Hybrid Servo Drive HBS86H+86HS80-EC-1000
Lathe motor 1,5 Kw /1450 +frequency converter ABB
Spindle 2,2kw+frequency converter Danfoss
linear rail :
2x KSF35-R-1-1796 mm +6 block
1x THK SHS45 + 2 block
Ball Screw:
1x THK 32/10 ,1600mm
2x Rexroth- Star 25/5, 530mm
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Old Sun 31 May 2015, 07:06
darren salyer
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Impressive work Gents.
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Old Sun 31 May 2015, 20:15
lonestaral
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You have built a Rolls Royce, Stefan.

I will continue building my Tractor.
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Old Mon 01 June 2015, 02:32
Alan_c
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Nice! Is the cross slide able to rotate? I see in the pic on the left that the spindle is in front of the machine with the tool post at the back and in the pic on the right it is on the other side?
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Old Mon 01 June 2015, 04:21
lonestaral
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Little Yellow Tractor(Apologies to Joni Mitchell)

Finished off the energy chain.
Tidied things up a bit.
Just as well today was a public holiday.
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Old Mon 01 June 2015, 07:17
darren salyer
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Wentzville mo
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Must. Not. Get. Sucked .In. To. Another. Build.
Stay strong Darren, yeah its cool, yeah you could make neat stuff with it....
OK too late. That's a great job Al. I'd love to build something like that.
Can't wait to see what comes off such a sexy looking machine.
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Old Mon 01 June 2015, 07:41
lonestaral
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Resistance is futile.
You will be assimilated into the collective.
Just ordinary round tractor parts.
Machines to make machines, made the energy chain on #114.
Back to my day job tomorrow.
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Old Mon 01 June 2015, 14:02
Alan_c
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Ah man!!! now you got me wanting one too!!!
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Old Sat 06 June 2015, 07:35
lonestaral
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Motor and start switch mounted.
Using the motor from my pillar drill until I can afford another.
Minor clash points being resolved.
Small adjustments to make.
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Old Sun 28 June 2015, 03:56
lonestaral
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I found a second hand motor for not a lot of money.
I think it is 500w. Cleaned it up, painted it.

I had to increase the distance between the wheels on the Z slide.
It was tipping under load.
Made a live center and an extended driving center.
0.5mm taper over 265mm.
It looks like I have a usable machine.

The biggest problem now is Mach 3 turn.
On the original screen the Single block button did not highlight.
I downloaded the blue screen for turning, same problem.
After a lot of searching I found the Mustang blue screenset that worked.

A major problem is that G70/71 are not supported.
That roughing and finishing cycle must be one of the most used cycles in turning.
You end up with several programs instead of 1.
Time taken, hours instead of minutes.

The Wizards leave a lot to be desired.
You have to manually enter any work offset (G54 etc) also toolcall (T0101) for offsets.
Both wizards to put a radius on the front of a job are no good for my purpose.

Solutions.
Keep looking for something else.
Write it myself.
Get my friend to write it.
Thats the weekend gone again.
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