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  #61  
Old Wed 20 May 2015, 09:28
Father-of-Ash
Just call me: Bilal
 
Toledo, OH
United States of America
Thanks Ken,
The only thing I am able to find is the pairs that go to the "A" phase and "B" phase but nothing to differentiate between the two A poles and B poles.
I guess if it doesn't hurt anything then ill just switch it on and see what happens.

Bilal
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Old Wed 27 May 2015, 16:57
Father-of-Ash
Just call me: Bilal
 
Toledo, OH
United States of America
Turns out those specifics aren't anywhere on the OM site, so I contacted them:
Black is your A and Green is your /A
Red is your B and Blue is your /B

Question on Dual Z slides: Do I add the distance between the two cutters to the 500mm of the gantry measurement?

Hoping to have metal ordered by the end of the week.
I'll put some pics up later tonight to show you where I'm at.

Thanks!
Bilal
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  #63  
Old Wed 27 May 2015, 21:16
Father-of-Ash
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Toledo, OH
United States of America
I've been trying to configure mach so I can at least hear some motors turn but not having much luck, I followed the config video at machsupport.com.
Also the test button on the PMDX-126 doesn't do anything although I can hear one motor do something. I went back and verified my wiring is according to the OM diagram & info from them.
Some pics of where I'm at along with some pretties from Mike, Thanks for the goody bag Mike!
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  #64  
Old Fri 29 May 2015, 05:26
pblackburn
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South-Central Pennsylvania
United States of America
Most times it is wiring and/or the ports and pins setup. I have a 126 with a 134 with 203 vampire drives and oriental motors. I may be able to assist you through it.
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  #65  
Old Sat 30 May 2015, 08:15
Father-of-Ash
Just call me: Bilal
 
Toledo, OH
United States of America
Pete Thank you
I haven't been back at it since last post, I'm going to go through it once more tonight, then maybe I'll pursue to annoy you
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Old Sun 31 May 2015, 21:01
Father-of-Ash
Just call me: Bilal
 
Toledo, OH
United States of America
Ok I'm still stumped...
The process seems very straight forward, not sure why I'm having such a hard time getting motors to turn. I'll more then likely be face palming myself once its figured out.
attached is a pic of the last config. of pins I used to no avail.
everything works fine in test mode off the BoB.
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  #67  
Old Sun 31 May 2015, 21:07
pblackburn
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South-Central Pennsylvania
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Is this through parallel port?
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  #68  
Old Sun 31 May 2015, 21:29
Father-of-Ash
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Toledo, OH
United States of America
Wow that was quick

Yes it is.
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Old Sun 31 May 2015, 21:33
pblackburn
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South-Central Pennsylvania
United States of America
Is your parallel port set to epp or ecp? Is the correct address in Mach? Are you using IEEE 1284 cable?
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Old Sun 31 May 2015, 21:38
pblackburn
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South-Central Pennsylvania
United States of America
Is your estop circuit correct? Do you require charge pump mode active?
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Old Sun 31 May 2015, 21:56
lonestaral
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Isarn
Thailand
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When you press the red 'Reset' button on the Mach 3 screen,
does it stop blinking ?
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  #72  
Old Sun 31 May 2015, 22:00
Father-of-Ash
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Toledo, OH
United States of America
Sorry it took me so long to get back with you, had to put my son back asleep.

under device manager it says ECP, yes address is correct 0378, part number on cable does come up as a 1284...and it says "data transfer cable" on it.
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  #73  
Old Sun 31 May 2015, 22:01
Father-of-Ash
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Toledo, OH
United States of America
I tried charge pump on and off.
Yes Al it does stop blinking.
And the E-stop is still factory jumpered.

Last edited by Father-of-Ash; Sun 31 May 2015 at 22:08..
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  #74  
Old Sun 31 May 2015, 23:10
lonestaral
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Isarn
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Have you another printer cable that you can try ?

I had a fault on a new cable this week, a loose pin.
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  #75  
Old Sun 31 May 2015, 23:17
pblackburn
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South-Central Pennsylvania
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What are your jumper settings? One cable in normal mode or extended mode or two parallel cables? There is a check in Port#1 Enabled in the Ports and Pins correct?
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  #76  
Old Sun 31 May 2015, 23:17
Father-of-Ash
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Toledo, OH
United States of America
That's what I'm thinking, this is an old cable as well...I'll pick one up tomorrow.
Yes Pete, normal mode, 1 port checked.
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  #77  
Old Tue 02 June 2015, 10:34
Father-of-Ash
Just call me: Bilal
 
Toledo, OH
United States of America
I haven't had a chance to pick a cable up yet, but should be able to tonight.
In the mean time I'm going to order a premium 20 footer, is there any issues in running long parallel port cable?
I also am going to put a decent computer together to handle cad/cam software along with machine control. I just have a slight concern using an APU...does Mach3 have any issues using an APU? I'm doubting it but thought I'd ask to make sure.

Thanks,
Bilal
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  #78  
Old Tue 02 June 2015, 10:37
pblackburn
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South-Central Pennsylvania
United States of America
I have 2-20 foot cables for port 1 and port 2 of my 126 board.

Edit: the cables are shielded also. I did that just because of the length and risk of noise exposure.

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  #79  
Old Thu 04 June 2015, 02:11
Father-of-Ash
Just call me: Bilal
 
Toledo, OH
United States of America
No luck on a male male db25 locally so far...2 more places to try, if they don't have it then I'll have to wait till Monday.

In the mean time I'm going over my metals list and should be able to order tomorrow, but just had a question about the rail angle iron... is there any y-car clearance issues using 5/16 thick rail?
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Old Thu 04 June 2015, 02:52
lonestaral
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On the m/m cable can you get a gender changer/ adapter ?
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  #81  
Old Thu 04 June 2015, 06:58
servant74
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Nashville (Tennessee)
United States of America
Bilal, ... I know it's old school, but find a 'yellow pages' (or their web site) and let your fingers do the walking. ... i.e. call around and ask if places have it, or if the people know where you might find it locally.

Expecially look for mom&pop shops, Radio Shack (but don't expect much help, but who knows!),

I started looking at http://www.yellowbook.com/s/electronic-parts/toledo-oh/ but also check surreounding areas.

Back 'in the day' I did a lot of sourcing things in the D-FW area, and YP was a normal starting point.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...-keywords=db25 has it, if you are willing to pay for next day-Saturday delivery.

Lots of luck!
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  #82  
Old Thu 04 June 2015, 09:49
Father-of-Ash
Just call me: Bilal
 
Toledo, OH
United States of America
Al, Jack, all the shops around here only offer usb to db25 which is only good for an older printer... I already have cables on order along with computer components...should see it all by Monday. I do have 2 more places to check...would be aggravating to wait till Monday.

Thanks
Bilal
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  #83  
Old Wed 10 June 2015, 00:03
Father-of-Ash
Just call me: Bilal
 
Toledo, OH
United States of America
I finally tried new cables tonight to no avail. please help.
the axes do jog in mach3...as far as I can tell, software is fine.

Another question that I've asked wrong twice before, I plan to use two cutters in the Y and they sit about 14" apart. How much longer does the X need to be for both cutters to reach the ends? Is it as simple as adding the distance between the cutters to the X along with the 600mm?

Thanks again guys,
Bilal
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  #84  
Old Wed 10 June 2015, 06:45
lonestaral
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Going by the book.

Normal printer port operation, checked ?(you may not have this screen pop up, I did not)

Native units, Inch or mm.

Port 1 enabled, checked ?

Kernel speed 25000 Hz, checked ?

Ports and pins, motor outputs set to your suppliers list correctly ?

E stop configured correctly?

X,Y and Z motors tuned(steps, velocity, acceleration all filled in) ?

Tab key bring out the Jog control screen ?
Jog not set to 0% ?

Charge pump needed?

spindle output (should make no difference, but I do not have a spindle) ?

Home switches ?

Soft limits set(turn on or off) ?

Just some basic settings to look at.
Got to start at the beginning again and again.

PS. When trying a program for my lathe, I could not figure out why the Single Block button would not indicate whether it was on or off.
It seems that the early screen did not have this feature.

Last edited by lonestaral; Wed 10 June 2015 at 06:50.. Reason: Thought of something,
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Old Wed 10 June 2015, 07:13
lonestaral
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Do your DRO's show movement but your motors do not turn ?
Just something else I thought of.
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  #86  
Old Wed 10 June 2015, 21:23
Father-of-Ash
Just call me: Bilal
 
Toledo, OH
United States of America
.......it was the pins.

Sorry to bug you guys over my simple multiple overlooks...I'll try and keep that to a minimum.

Hopefully I'm not starting again with this next question, I'm trying to slave my other X motor which is on pins A and B of the 126 but not sure what pin numbers those are on the parallel port.
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  #87  
Old Wed 10 June 2015, 21:28
pblackburn
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South-Central Pennsylvania
United States of America
Are you using a 134?
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  #88  
Old Wed 10 June 2015, 22:00
Father-of-Ash
Just call me: Bilal
 
Toledo, OH
United States of America
No, I'm using two 133's
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  #89  
Old Wed 10 June 2015, 22:15
pblackburn
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South-Central Pennsylvania
United States of America
I hate to give such a vague answer but near the end of the 126 manual it gives the cross reference from parallel to the port 1 and port 2 pins. This is where it can be confusing but you have to go to the section of the manual for the motor directory and step locations. If you have printed out the manual. It makes it a ton easier. I would tell you exact pins but everyone's setup is a little different
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Old Wed 10 June 2015, 22:49
Father-of-Ash
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Toledo, OH
United States of America
Had to switch to cell phone...Electricity flickering badly, storming hard.

Thanks Pete, lack of effort on my part. I do remember seeing those tables now. Manual is in garage but its coming down hard enough to drench me in that 40ft. run.
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