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Old Sat 08 August 2009, 07:38
servant74
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Nashville (Tennessee)
United States of America
Talking Who wants to make a really big MM?

http://www.scaled.com/services/cms_mill.html

Ok, not a MM, but in some ways it has some similarities.

... The cutting area is bigger than most shops!

50 ft. (X) / 20 ft. (Y) / 8 ft. (Z) [15 x 6 x 2.5 meters]
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Old Sat 08 August 2009, 08:09
jfwillem
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58130 Guerigny
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salut: http://www.eew-maschinenbau.com/index.php?id=110&L=1
jf

500 ft. (X) / 40 ft. (Y) / 15 ft. (Z) [151 x 12 x 4 meters]
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Old Sat 08 August 2009, 08:52
Gerald D
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Cape Town
South Africa
That EEW site is to advertise those monsters for sale - they have already sold 45 in various sizes.

Videos

I like the "extrusion" (smearing)
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Old Sat 08 August 2009, 12:30
domino11
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Cornwall, Ontario
Canada
Looks more like a Gantry Crane than a CNC machine.
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Old Sat 08 August 2009, 20:27
Doug_Ford
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Conway (Arkansas)
United States of America
What on earth do you make with one of these? And after you've made it, how do you move it?
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Old Sat 08 August 2009, 21:25
Gerald D
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Cape Town
South Africa
Doug, have a look at Milling and extrusion of a concept car
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Old Sun 09 August 2009, 02:56
sailfl
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Winter Park, FL
United States of America
Gerald,

That was so cool. I suppose this means I will have to take the roof off of my garage so I will have enough room for the smaller model. What do they charge an hour to cut those models?
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Old Mon 10 August 2009, 07:38
smreish
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Orlando, Florida
United States of America
Those car model's you see in the video typically cost anywhere from 25-50K dollars depending on detail of model and final finish required.

A lot of times the CNC will over cut the model by 1", then hand trowel on a machinable wax or clay, then re-cut the model.

So, you have to cut a lot of models to pay for that 3M+ dollar machine!

On the average, people like 3dcutting.com in Canada offer this type of service on a lower scale for a much more reasonable price point.

To answer your question Nils, the industry typically bears about a 300$ per hour run charge plus material on those models - all inclusive.
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Old Mon 10 August 2009, 09:24
sailfl
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Winter Park, FL
United States of America
Sean,

That cut price seems cheap for the cost of the machine.
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Old Mon 10 August 2009, 19:00
servant74
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Nashville (Tennessee)
United States of America
Keeping them busy would seem to be the point to make $$ at this.

For a MM, what is a reasonable hourly rate if someone wanted cutting done?

Say that they get $300/hr for $300MM machine investment, then that is a
$20K (equivalent if purchasing a put together MM, IMHO) would be about $0.02/hr
if that is the same rate.
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Old Tue 11 August 2009, 00:13
Gerald D
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Cape Town
South Africa
We run in the $20-$50 per hour range.
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Old Tue 11 August 2009, 05:05
Robert M
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Lac-Brome, Qc
Canada
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Gerald, why such a wide (30$) variable rang ??

Since on this subject, I’d like to read more about this, meaning, you guys doing this as part of your business, how much some of you are charging ?
What are those fees, meaning, drawing & programming as part of those hrs rates or seperat ?
How much $$ /hr for : CAD / hr, then CAM / hr and the machining alone ( the time the beast at works). Surly some charges a single hourly rate for all, that too be interesting to exchange on.
I guess what I’m asking is detail info on how you guys making a living out of this are managing those charges ??
Thanks... Robert

(BTW Gerald, change my post location if you fell this is not a proper location for my questions or you feel it could drift of this thread )
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Old Tue 11 August 2009, 11:57
Gerald D
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Cape Town
South Africa
That range is the prices available around Cape Town, not only for us. Some guys are trying for more customers, some include/exclude programming, sandpapering, rough cut, smooth cut, etc., etc.
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Old Tue 11 August 2009, 13:43
servant74
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Nashville (Tennessee)
United States of America
Sounds like a reasonable range in many markets. Since I don't have one built yet, roughly how much gets cut in an hour (excluding sanding, programming, etc).

Do most cuts get a 'rough cut' or two and a 'finish or smoothing cut'?
Are the rates like were posted including or exclusive of materials?
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Old Thu 13 August 2009, 09:25
Doug_Ford
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Conway (Arkansas)
United States of America
That was a fascinating video. Thanks Gerald.
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Old Thu 13 August 2009, 10:13
andyclarkecncuk
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bristol
United Kingdom
Thats an amazing video.
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