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  #241  
Old Tue 03 May 2011, 13:39
smreish
Just call me: Sean - #5, 28, 58 and others
 
Orlando, Florida
United States of America
...I ground just a little crescent in the base of clearance - never really thought about it differently until today. Of course, I had slightly "taller than specified" rails.

"what's a mm between friend's anyway?!"
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  #242  
Old Wed 04 May 2011, 21:37
melissa
Just call me: Melissa #83
 
Brighton (Ontario)
Canada
Moving on to the Z slide, I welded most of the spider tonight. With a 4" gauge plate for the slide, my holes were outside the three hash marks.

I still need to drill the hole for the gas shock, and then untwist / flatten the spider.
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  #243  
Old Thu 05 May 2011, 12:01
camilleg
Just call me: Camille
 
Urbana, Illinois
United States of America
Boots work well for flattening spiders. Couldn't resist, sorry. No, I'm not.
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  #244  
Old Thu 05 May 2011, 13:10
melissa
Just call me: Melissa #83
 
Brighton (Ontario)
Canada
I did a quick test-fit to see how the K2CNC mount was going to fit on the Z-slide. In a word: badly .

It looks like the exact inteference seen in this post: http://www.mechmate.com/forums/showt...37&postcount=8

What it looks like, positioned as per the plans:
router_spider_interference.jpg

First I tried inverting the eccentrics, which helped:
eccentrics_inverted.jpg

But that wasn't enough, so I added a 1/2" spacer as well:
inverted_with_shim_1.jpginverted_with_shim_2.jpg

That seems to work OK.

However... I'm now seriously wondering whether I'm better off selling this K2CNC mount and having a local shop make a mount that will clear the rollers without all this extra fussing about.

Hmm...
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  #245  
Old Thu 05 May 2011, 13:42
jasoncarter
Just call me: Jason #82
 
Arkansas
United States of America
It would seem the easiest solution would be to replace your plywood spacer with a metal one that has all the necessary drilled, tapped and reamed holes to adapt the K2CNC mount to the Mechmate. A flat, square plate with 7 holes is likely to be a lot cheaper to have made (or easier if you make it yourself) than a custom mount.

If you decide later that is just isn't what you want you can use your Mechmate to make one to your liking.
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  #246  
Old Thu 05 May 2011, 15:16
camilleg
Just call me: Camille
 
Urbana, Illinois
United States of America
Brainstorm: just to get the MM cutting even sooner, without waiting for metalwork: if the plywood is basically ok but prone to crushing in a few places, then insert a few metal standoffs into drilled holes. By standoff I mean a junkbox bolt hacksawed to half-inch length. Even simpler: press in some T-nuts as load spreaders.
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  #247  
Old Thu 05 May 2011, 15:46
smreish
Just call me: Sean - #5, 28, 58 and others
 
Orlando, Florida
United States of America
I have used the K2CNC mount on 3 machines and had to add little spacer for just the same clearance issue. That added 20mm of moment arm did nothing to affect the machine. I actually used the space to my advantage to make a deeper draw bolt pocket threaded spacer. Without confusion - just add the spacers and once your up and running, you can cut a custom bracket to exactly fit your needs.

I personally like the K2 bracket because it fit my PC router so well.

Best,
Sean
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  #248  
Old Thu 05 May 2011, 17:49
domino11
Just call me: Heath
 
Cornwall, Ontario
Canada
What about taking a small 45 deg cut off the corner that is fouling on the rollers? I thought I saw a picture of that on one of the builds some time ago. The backing plate would have to be narrowed to where the 45 ends on the mounts as well.
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  #249  
Old Thu 05 May 2011, 20:11
shaper
Just call me: Jed
 
Perth, WA
Australia
Trimming the mount has been done, see Ross's (Surfcnc) thread here
http://www.mechmate.com/forums/showt...&postcount=252

Last edited by domino11; Thu 05 May 2011 at 21:41.. Reason: fixed link
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  #250  
Old Thu 05 May 2011, 21:42
domino11
Just call me: Heath
 
Cornwall, Ontario
Canada
Thanks Jed, that was the one I was thinking of.
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  #251  
Old Thu 05 May 2011, 22:57
AuS MaDDoG
Just call me: Tony #71
 
Brisbane
Australia
I had to do exactly the same thing to both our MM's also. Works well and saves the need for a spacer.

http://www.mechmate.com/forums/showt...&postcount=224

Cheers
Tony.
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  #252  
Old Wed 11 May 2011, 20:59
melissa
Just call me: Melissa #83
 
Brighton (Ontario)
Canada
As suggested, I made some modifications to my K2CNC mount. Now it fits great .

I do have a question about the gas shock, now that I have it mounted. The threads on both ends are too short for the nylock nuts to engage the nylon. Is there any point to trying to fix this mechanically, or should I just be lazy and use a bit of loctite threadlocker instead?
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  #253  
Old Thu 12 May 2011, 00:02
Gerald D
Just call me: Gerald (retired)
 
Cape Town
South Africa
The nuts actually serve no purpose. In fact, there is the danger of someone tightening the nut onto a less than perpendicular surface and putting side force onto the rod and seal.
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  #254  
Old Thu 12 May 2011, 11:49
camilleg
Just call me: Camille
 
Urbana, Illinois
United States of America
Loctite, followed with a dab of paint across nut and bolt so you can later see if it's loosening, and a note in your maintenance schedule to check that dab monthly?
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  #255  
Old Thu 12 May 2011, 13:07
Gerald D
Just call me: Gerald (retired)
 
Cape Town
South Africa
Camille, you want the nut to be loose.
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  #256  
Old Thu 12 May 2011, 14:58
melissa
Just call me: Melissa #83
 
Brighton (Ontario)
Canada
I'll just omit the nuts then. I have barely enough thread to get the nut on, anyways.

I'll just position the "stop bolt" on the back of the tube such that the gas shock is always captive.
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  #257  
Old Fri 13 May 2011, 21:15
melissa
Just call me: Melissa #83
 
Brighton (Ontario)
Canada
I'm happy that the spider is now complete, and painted. I wasn't happy last night . Trying to get six roller mounts coplanar and flat... what worked best was the sheet of sandpaper on my table saw.
spider_painted.jpg

Well, what would have worked best was my soon-to-be-delivered Bridgeport clone knee mill , but it won't be here for another week or two.

Next, I built a bracket to lower the cable-chain connection on the gantry. It's times like this that I'm glad I didn't just contract out the welding of the whole table... this whole process would take WAY longer if I had to call in a welder for each little 10-minute job.

bracket_on_drill_press.jpegcable_chain_bracket.jpg
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  #258  
Old Sun 15 May 2011, 01:58
Johannescnc
Just call me: John
 
Hannover, DE
Germany
I like the paint stands!
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  #259  
Old Mon 16 May 2011, 20:03
camilleg
Just call me: Camille
 
Urbana, Illinois
United States of America
Kobus and Danilo liked them too, back on page 3, posts 64-67.
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  #260  
Old Fri 20 May 2011, 22:13
melissa
Just call me: Melissa #83
 
Brighton (Ontario)
Canada
Progress on painting the cable chain parts: Y-chain carrier and X-chain glide trays primed. They've since been painted and installed, photos soon.
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  #261  
Old Sat 21 May 2011, 13:44
camilleg
Just call me: Camille
 
Urbana, Illinois
United States of America
Y'know, if you keep using those painters pyramids that much, they'll end up spherical! I don't think you can bend them to flake off dried stuff. Maybe let them marinate in thinner and hope it's good plastic? (Thinking waaay too far ahead, as usual...)
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  #262  
Old Tue 24 May 2011, 22:37
melissa
Just call me: Melissa #83
 
Brighton (Ontario)
Canada
Progress on the gantry: Z slide mounted, and cable chain installed.
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  #263  
Old Tue 24 May 2011, 22:41
melissa
Just call me: Melissa #83
 
Brighton (Ontario)
Canada
Moving on to the control box, I made a couple of brackets to mount my power supply horizontal, to save a bit of area on the panel:
transformer_brackets.jpg

The panel has three ribs welded behind it, to help strengthen it vertically:
control_box_panel_ribs.jpg

Test fitting most of the electronics:
control_box_unwired.jpg

And the control box cover, with the switches and indicator lights installed:
control_box_cover.jpg
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  #264  
Old Wed 25 May 2011, 09:38
HomeMadeCnc
Just call me: Tim
 
Calgary, Alberta
Canada
Going to be a kick ass machine! Looks good

Cheers,
Tim
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  #265  
Old Wed 25 May 2011, 10:37
camilleg
Just call me: Camille
 
Urbana, Illinois
United States of America
No beer allowed in the workshop unless it's structural! (Hence the Guinness. Pabst Blue Ribbon wouldn't work.)

I couldn't see in the photo, but the panel's stiffening ribs are welded the whole way, not just tacked, I hope?
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  #266  
Old Wed 25 May 2011, 10:48
melissa
Just call me: Melissa #83
 
Brighton (Ontario)
Canada
Quote:
Originally Posted by camilleg View Post
I couldn't see in the photo, but the panel's stiffening ribs are welded the whole way, not just tacked, I hope?
Not fully welded, that would be excessive, and also risk heat distortion. They were tacked, and then welded for about 1" every 8".
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  #267  
Old Thu 26 May 2011, 16:11
camilleg
Just call me: Camille
 
Urbana, Illinois
United States of America
It's been suspiciously quiet from Brighton for the past 24 hours. I expect momentous news. Either really good news, or that the gantry drove over his arms and he can't type on a keyboard anymore.
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  #268  
Old Thu 26 May 2011, 22:55
melissa
Just call me: Melissa #83
 
Brighton (Ontario)
Canada
Well, I am making progress, but I'm not cutting quite yet.

I built a wall mount for the keyboard and monitor today. The monitor swivels so it can be easily seen from anywhere I happen to be standing around the mechmate.

The bolts are loose for now... this was just test-fitting.

A piece of MDF or plywood will become the keyboard shelf, held in place with four screws from below.
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  #269  
Old Fri 27 May 2011, 08:21
camilleg
Just call me: Camille
 
Urbana, Illinois
United States of America
Hey, you forgot to paint them blue! (Which MM part numbers are they, anyways?)
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  #270  
Old Thu 02 June 2011, 23:36
melissa
Just call me: Melissa #83
 
Brighton (Ontario)
Canada
It's been a very busy few days. I pulled all the cables for the table. A pull string made the cable chains much easier to deal with. Much less expensive than the opening-style chains, too, for what's typically a one-time operation.
pulling_wires.jpeg

With the wires in place, next up was all the pushbuttons. I bought a second box to use as a junction box at one end of the gantry. It did work, just barely. There's no room at all for the proxy relays, so I'm running without proxies for the moment.
wiring_pushbuttons.jpg

I spent quite some time sitting on the table, which turned out to be a perfect working height for the control box .
wiring_control_box.jpg
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