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  #91  
Old Thu 13 May 2010, 22:36
swatkins
Just call me: Steve
 
Houston
United States of America
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Originally Posted by MetalHead View Post
Great looking control box !!! Nice to have those motors movin
Thank you

Making the motors move was kicking my rear end.... I finally figured out that the charge pump setting was not enabled in Mach3.. I was sure happy to see them go after I turn that on
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  #92  
Old Sun 23 May 2010, 15:12
swatkins
Just call me: Steve
 
Houston
United States of America
A little set back...

I am busy building a set of kitchen cabinets.. While using my current router table to shape the door rails the router decided to start acting up... I think the brushes are going out and that throws a monkey wrench into my plans... This is the router I was planing on using for my MechMate

I have been searching the forum looking for options... The spindle looks to be a superior motor for the machine and if I can make it happen for under 900.00 I think that's the best route...

I have never used a spindle and I am having a hard time finding a list of features that would allow me to make a informed decision... From what I have been able to find there are a few clear advantages ( I think)...
  • The water cooled spindle is not a loud as a router motor.
  • The spindle can be controlled easier than a router.
  • The spindle might have a better accuracy due to better run out tolerances.

The Router also has a few advantages over the spindle.
  • The router is much cheaper and easier to replace if it breaks.
  • The router is needs no other electronic other than a relay...

So I am need of help from people that have experience.. What would you do if you had only 900.00 and planned on using the MechMate to cut plywood for cabinets, light metal for brackets and plates along with other general cutting duties...
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Old Sun 23 May 2010, 22:28
Richards
Just call me: Mike
 
South Jordan, UT
United States of America
I started my CNC experience with a Porter Cable router and eventually moved to a Colombo 3hp spindle.

The Porter Cable worked just fine. It was loud, but it cost less than $300 on the Internet. The Colombo with its controller, collets and wrenches cost about $3,500. In addition, I added another $750 for filters and suppressors to cure a non-existent electrical noise problem.

If I had it to do over again, I would still start with a router. I can only imagine how I would have felt if I had crashed my spindle like I crashed my router when I was first learning to "drive" my machine. Accidents happen. Spindles are fragile. Routers are cheap.

It cost less than $30 to replace the bearings in my Porter Cable router. Brushes are also inexpensive. I understand that a factory rebuild of my spindle to replace the bearings will cost more than $700.

Also, with a spindle, you have to properly warm the spindle up EVERY morning and then again if it has sat idle long enough to completely cool down. I'm fairly certain that I have logged almost as many hours in warm-up mode as I have logged in cut mode.

Of all the people who I've personally met who own Shopbots, only one started with a spindle; all the rest of us started with a router.

To be completely fair, I like my spindle. It allows me almost infinite control of the cut speed, but I could have just as easily adjusted the feed speed to fine-tune the cut. I have not had one minute's trouble with the spindle, but I never had any trouble with the Porter Cable in the year that I used it. I changed the bearings on a day when I had nothing to do. The Porter Cable ran cooler with the new bearings, but the cut quality was exactly the same. For that matter, the cut quality was no better with the spindle. My ears appreciate the lower noise level of the spindle, but my pocketbook suffered greatly.

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Old Sun 23 May 2010, 22:53
javeria
Just call me: Irfan #33
 
Bangalore
India
in India I would go for the spindle (asian) 265 for spindle + 90 for shipping + 100 duties and other expenses + 300 for a delta VFD + 2USD for the ferrite core to take out the electrical noise+ 100 for cooling setup for water cooling set up.

thats 857 total,

we once changed the NSK bearings that cost us like 50 ...

I would say get a quote for a asian spindle and calculate how much you would spend for the setup,

i started with a router too, but would not recommend you to do the same - my makita was insanely loud!
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  #95  
Old Sun 13 June 2010, 15:35
Regnar
Just call me: Russell #69
 
Mobile, Alabama
United States of America
Steve, Just wondering how things are going? We need a update from you
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  #96  
Old Sun 13 June 2010, 17:06
sailfl
Just call me: Nils #12
 
Winter Park, FL
United States of America
Buy a Milwaukee 5625 over a Porter Cable. Less noise.
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  #97  
Old Mon 14 June 2010, 14:29
smreish
Just call me: Sean - #5, 28, 58 and others
 
Orlando, Florida
United States of America
I second that motion! Buy the Milkwaukee unless you already have the the P/C unit. A LOT less noise....like 30db or more.
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  #98  
Old Mon 08 April 2013, 21:32
swatkins
Just call me: Steve
 
Houston
United States of America
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Steve, Just wondering how things are going? We need a update from you
HI Guys!

I'm BACKKKKKKK

Life has really gotten in my way for the last couple of years. Even my website work has had to take a backseat as I am overrun with construction projects and just no time or space to finish up my machine.

So..... Two custom homes, three custom kitchens with hand crafted cabinets AND building my own home, I am ALMOST ready to weld up my table!

Just have to finish up all the Knotty Alder raised panel doors for my house and I can move the wood shop out of the way and put the table together!

This may be the longest build in MechMate History
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  #99  
Old Tue 09 April 2013, 10:46
smreish
Just call me: Sean - #5, 28, 58 and others
 
Orlando, Florida
United States of America
Steve, Great to see you back in action.
...we will be watching!
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  #100  
Old Tue 09 April 2013, 12:25
andrewuk
Just call me: Andrew
 
leeds
United Kingdom
lol i'm going for that record welcome back.
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  #101  
Old Fri 13 December 2013, 07:35
20HeavyGK
Just call me: John
 
Houston Texas
United States of America
Looks good to me Steve. My rails will likely be used instead in holding up chain hoists!
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  #102  
Old Fri 13 December 2013, 08:14
MetalHead
Just call me: Mike
 
Columbiana AL
United States of America
Hey John - You building a MechMate? Would love to see some pics !!
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  #103  
Old Fri 13 December 2013, 08:42
20HeavyGK
Just call me: John
 
Houston Texas
United States of America
Not me. I thought about it enough to acquire some 6 X 3 tubing - but that is coming up on ten years ago. If its not old, way too big and probably rusty, I generally am not much interested.

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb...lusman-183407/

The thought about router related to this, and I don't mean models of it:

http://www.aeromuseumservices.com/

Last edited by 20HeavyGK; Fri 13 December 2013 at 08:51.. Reason: fix typo
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  #104  
Old Fri 13 December 2013, 12:13
MetalHead
Just call me: Mike
 
Columbiana AL
United States of America
Ha!!

Well welcome to the forum and enjoy the reading. We try to keep posts focused on MechMate builds and support
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