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paulus Tue 21 August 2012 07:25

new guy
 
Hi all.
I am paul from sunny south africa this will be my first build on this type of make, i have tryde to build a cnc router before but not so good so i am giving it a second try. lets see how this is going to pan out.
i see there is a couple of guys from south africa on the forum i would like to know where you are from if you dont mind.

thanks.:)

domino11 Tue 21 August 2012 07:40

Welcome Paul! :)

JamesJ Tue 21 August 2012 16:51

Welcome to the group!

MetalHead Wed 22 August 2012 09:08

Welcome aboard. Stick to the plans and you will have a great CNC machine when you finish.

hennie Wed 22 August 2012 10:52

Welkom, PM my dan gee ek jou my details ek is in JHB en so ook `n hele paar ander manne.

paulus Wed 22 August 2012 23:41

thank you all for welcoming me i truely hope that this one will be 100% when it is done

paulus Tue 16 July 2013 15:27

Miniature MechMate suddenly cutting - Johannesburg, S.Africa
 
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Hi all
Ok this has taken me longer that I wanted but it is done. Now I am cutting,as you can see this is not a full size machine the cutting area is 600 x 1000.
So far I am happy with what I have done. And I think it looks good.
I just need to put the name on.
O before I forget where do I get a number.
Attachment 14063

Attachment 14064

Attachment 14062.

And here is the big one in the making.


Attachment 14065

Alan_c Wed 17 July 2013 00:58

Why are your main beams upside down? (and your table supports come to mention it)

paulus Wed 17 July 2013 04:58

Not sure what you mean. I have moved the table suport down so that I don't add weight to the side beams and preventing it from bowing the table. Or am I not thinking right.

Gerald D Wed 17 July 2013 05:40

The table supports must be connected to the side beams, or else you will get a lot of vibration in those beams.

KenC Wed 17 July 2013 09:48

You are thinking right, just paranoid. :)
Don't worry about the side beams bow... you can put a few tons on it & its won't budge...

paulus Wed 17 July 2013 11:19

Ok I hear what you are saying gerald. The other reson why I put it at the bottom is that I used a smaller beam not a 150mm. So that will give me the same Z clearance as a 150 beam. So if I run a short suport from the table suport to the bottom of the side beam then that will take care of the vibration( right?).
Thanks ken for your in put but you will understand now wwhy I say it wil bow as I am using a 100mm beam.

Gerald D Wed 17 July 2013 11:37

The worst bending of the side beams is horizontal, when the y-axis has to reverse direction rapidly. Try cutting some text (letters) and you will be amazed to see all the shaking (probably consider adding diagonal braces on the legs as well)

paulus Wed 17 July 2013 11:41

Ok will do thanks gerald. Who will give a number for my small machine.

paulus Wed 17 July 2013 11:50

Gerald I want to cut a product called( trespa) it is a resin board what will you sugest as cutting speed and feed and the bit to use if you can help. Thanks

paulus Wed 17 July 2013 13:01

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Here is a better view of my mini mm Attachment 14068

Attachment 14067

Alan_c Wed 17 July 2013 13:35

Your main beams on the sides are upside down, the long edge (that the rail is supposed to be fixed to) is at the bottom and the shorter edge is at the top, the reason they are done like this is to maximise the length of beam under the rails, the way you have them is of no benefit so you could have just cut them straight...:confused:

paulus Wed 17 July 2013 13:46

:DOk that is what you mean. I cut them longer so that I can do it the other way around. It just looks better to me if it is this way round.:)
Thanks for your comments I am starting to understand why the mm is design the way it is. Talking about that who did design it?

darren salyer Wed 17 July 2013 14:03

In response to post #14, I think with some logos applied, it would certainly qualify for a #.
Enjoy using it.

paulus Wed 17 July 2013 14:07

Good will make a plan to get it on asap thanks.

swatkins Wed 17 July 2013 16:31

Gerald designed the MM !

How about a close up of the Y car !

KenC Wed 17 July 2013 21:35

Paul,with such a short span, even 50mm C channel can take a few tons without problem...
Lately, I did a stress analysis on a pin supported 1200mm span 50x100x5mm Channel, I get 0.01mm deflection at the middle of the span with point load of 10kN.

swatkins Wed 17 July 2013 22:43

Is the Y car in the top pictures a scaled down version?

Gerald D Wed 17 July 2013 23:11

Ken, my gut feel is that your beam calc is not correct. Maybe 10x greater deflection? (I havn't calculated these things for a long time)

KenC Thu 18 July 2013 00:02

I'm surprised too... but the point is we all over design excessively... even if I made mistake on 1 decimal point :) because we trusted our eye too much LOL!!!

The reason for my simulation was to convince a client/friend that there are no need to replace the 50x100mmx5mm thk sheet metal channel beam to a 6". BUT THAN AGAIN, for the sake of indulging his visual/psychological satisfaction, I went with 6"x2" since he is paying the extra :)

paulus Thu 18 July 2013 00:02

To respond to steve, yes it is scaled down it was not easy but I got it done. How ever I need to increas the motor mounting plate thikness to 3mm. And I think what you guys call the Y car I call the X car I made it out of one piece bend the sides and not welded.

KenC Thu 18 July 2013 00:06

This is a genuine Mini MM :)
Great job!

paulus Thu 18 July 2013 00:11

Just want to thank gerald for a great design proudly south african. I am also glad to see not all the great minds have left the country. This machine must be strongly premoted in sa so that the cnc world can be turnd on its head in this country every guy wants to get rich quick on cnc and over charge.

paulus Thu 18 July 2013 00:37

Thanks ken will see how it hold up will keep you guys posted.

paulus Thu 18 July 2013 13:43

Hi all.
Can any one help with this.
I have picked up a constant buzzing noise on one of my motors any idea as to what it can be? It is not very loud.
Thanks


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