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southernduckie Wed 25 May 2011 02:46

hobbed or ground rack?
 
Hi,

Don't know if i'm missing something but is the rack ground or hobbed?
Apart from the price difference is ground rack required? motors would run smoother on ground rack i think and accuacy would be improved not sure it this would affect cut quality.

Thanks in advance. i hope;)

Kobus_Joubert Wed 25 May 2011 04:23

Not hobbed...all ground I think

Surfcnc Wed 25 May 2011 05:06

Gear ratio would be the biggest determinant of cut quality.
That is why the Oriental Motors steppers with the gearbox built in or the 4 to 1 belt reductions are so popular.
Both these options improve the resolution many times over trying to improve the fitment of the pinion to the rack itself.

TEA have the rack here in Australia, up to a 3m length for the X axis.

Regards
Ross

Gerald D Wed 25 May 2011 09:46

I don't think that anyone has used ground rack. Our machines are definitely with hobbed rack and hobbed pinion gears.

Gerald D Wed 25 May 2011 10:21

Hobbing is a process whereby a metal cutter "shaves" away cuttings.....similar to milling.

Grinding uses stone to get a finer/smoother surface after hobbing is complete.

Hobbed gears have a slightly rough surface that soon wears smooth.

southernduckie Thu 26 May 2011 02:16

Thankyou
 
Thankyou, think i can put this one to bed and save a heap of $ to:cool: hobbed rack it is. it's questions like this that keep me up at night:mad:

Kobus_Joubert Thu 26 May 2011 02:33

Shows how much I know about engineering..:o
All I can do well is FOLLOW THE PLAN..:D

Surfcnc Thu 26 May 2011 06:24

Kobus - I read the wiki on Hobbing at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobbing after your comment and was still not able to figure out exactly how the rack was made.
You have plenty of company :)

Regards
Ross

Gerald D Thu 26 May 2011 07:12

I don't think that a rack, which is a gear with infinitely large diameter, is "hobbed" at all - I think that is plainly "milled"

To see/understand hobbing, you need to watch some youtubes. The first one I found had poor video quality but it showed the basics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_qflpT6__o On the left is the (spiral) cutter, on the right is the gear being cut. the cutter and gear are speed controlled so that the cutter doesn't just strip off all the teeth. The spiral cutter is held at an angle to the gear, equal to the angle of the spiral, so that the gear's teeth end up straight. The cutter moves across the face of the gear at a fixed distance from the gear's center. Maybe skip to the end of the video to see the bigger picture when the camera zooms out. There must be many better videos available.

Gerald D Thu 26 May 2011 07:21

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j9OUR3mKK0 Hobbing cutter left, gear being produced on right. I skipped a lot of the video but I think it was a first pass going up and a full depth pass going down.

Edit: another pass back up

Kobus_Joubert Thu 26 May 2011 08:23

I know the basics of hobbing and have done it on a small pinion...that is why I thought our Module 1 racks were Milled and not hobbed ..or whatever..

KenC Thu 26 May 2011 08:36

The important part is, IT WORKS!!!


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