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BartDeckers Fri 02 October 2009 12:25

Finished and first job done! - Deurne, Antwerp, Belgium
 
Most of the electric, electronic parts are ordered.

Gecko's, PMDX-122, transformer have all arrived. Will pick the rest of the electric parts and the oriental motors up on monday.

Price quotations for laser parts and steel are out the door. List of all the nuts and bolts is made and I will order those on monday.

I wanted to use a spindle but that will have to wait so I bought a Makita 3612C router. I hope it is not to noisy. :D

Wheels and bushings from Superior Bearing are in the mail.

I hope to get my hands dirty in about two weeks time....:)

domino11 Fri 02 October 2009 12:35

Good Luck Bart! Sounds like your homework is paying off now. :)

kooskoek Fri 02 October 2009 13:25

I think I did to little homework, thought I made sence of the drawings, must say I learned more about drawings than i ever thought i would. But once you start putting things together everything falls into place. And the people on this forum rules, cause there is always someone willing to help out.

BartDeckers Mon 05 October 2009 06:22

Hi, Heat and Dave,

Yes I tried to prepare in advance. I made a 3D model (Inventor) of the Mechmate just to understand all the parts better. This will also give me a detailed parts list. Put more time in the preparation and hope to win some time in the actual building. We'll see...

I got prices for steel and lasercut/bending today.

Lasercut + bending : 1100 € (1600 USD)
Steel : 625 € (910 USD) (supplier 1)
Steel : 1140 € (1660 USD) (supplier 2)

I have been looking arround on the forum and these prices seem very high to me. :confused:

Can anyone comment on the pricelevel you have paid for your parts?

Gerald D Mon 05 October 2009 06:51

Took me a while to realise that this is a different Bart from Antwerp - welkom! :)
(other Bart)

BartDeckers Mon 05 October 2009 06:54

Yes,

Two Bart's both from Belgium and both from Antwerp. Must be something in the water (or beer) here. :)

Claudiu Mon 05 October 2009 09:36

Quote:
Originally Posted by BartDeckers View Post
Lasercut + bending : 1100 € (1600 USD)
Steel : 625 € (910 USD) (supplier 1)
Steel : 1140 € (1660 USD) (supplier 2)
... comment on the pricelevel ...?
Hey Bart

I think the price level is far exagerated !!!
I paid under 200 Euro for steel lasercut and bent.
For the rest of the steel i cannot say weather its cheap or not
because I have mine modified and prepared, so I will pay
about 1300 Euro for that inclusive all prep work.( Rails, drillings weldings etc.)

Have fun with your build and good luck.

Claudiu

Barman Mon 05 October 2009 10:51

Hey Bart,
Welkom

Before I decided to build the MM I did also various contests about the lasercutting parts and the steel.

The prices from the local lasercutting companies in Antwerpen varied between 600 and 1200 euros without VAT. I can recommend you to order a set by Kim in Denmark.
The laserset + shippingcosts are still cheaper than a set here in Belgium .

For the steel , I received a price at that time of around 500 euros for the UPN 180 and the UPN 80 and the other profiels at " Galler " in Hemiksem .
Other companies for a good price are : “ Het ijzer “ en “ Lommaert “ .
You should know that each length is 6 meters.


Veel succes
Groeten Bart :)

domino11 Mon 05 October 2009 10:53

Bart and Bart,
I believe Kim is no longer supplying kits for the MM.
See Laser cut kits for Europe - out of Denmark (no longer offered)

Barman Mon 05 October 2009 11:18

That's bad news about Kim :(

But ,my best price at the time was 514 euro without VAT at " Lasertek NV" .
When you want to order I can still gif you the " offerte nummer " , if you want .

BartDeckers Mon 05 October 2009 12:50

Bart,

I would be interested in a copy of your offer from Lasertek if that is possible. The price I got is also from Lasertek. So I am surprised at the price difference. If you do not have the offer anymore than the offertenummer will also help. Thanks in advance.

Groeten,

Bart (dit wordt verwarrend :) )

Barman Tue 06 October 2009 12:11

He Bart ,

The offerte nummer is : 2008/1916
made by Karel Huysmans .

riesvantwisk Tue 06 October 2009 20:38

Quote:
Originally Posted by BartDeckers View Post
Hi, Heat and Dave,

Yes I tried to prepare in advance. I made a 3D model (Inventor) of the Mechmate just to understand all the parts better. This will also give me a detailed parts list. Put more time in the preparation and hope to win some time in the actual building. We'll see...

I got prices for steel and lasercut/bending today.

Lasercut + bending : 1100 € (1600 USD)
Steel : 625 € (910 USD) (supplier 1)
Steel : 1140 € (1660 USD) (supplier 2)

I have been looking arround on the forum and these prices seem very high to me. :confused:

Can anyone comment on the pricelevel you have paid for your parts?
That sounds indeed expensive.
Although I am from a country that is a bit lower in hourly rates it's hard to compare.

Still, the price difference between the two companies justify to ask a third company, asking is free, right? Shopping around for 2 hours can save you some good $$$.

Ries

sailfl Wed 07 October 2009 05:27

Ries,

The prices in the USA are less than half of your lowest price. Have you considered ordering from a some one in the USA. The shipping I don't think would cost that much and I suspect you don't have a problem with receiving goods from the States. Though it might take some time to arrive and air would bump the price back up. Just a thought.

Barman Wed 07 October 2009 09:47

Bart ,

I received 1 pm yesterday , with your email address.
That's what you meant ?

Bart

riesvantwisk Wed 07 October 2009 10:03

sailfl,

I think you replied to the wrong person :)
Ordering from the US to europe should be good to go I think,
towards Ecuador it's a pain in the rear to get something imported.

Ries

sailfl Wed 07 October 2009 10:47

Sorry if I screwed up.!

BartDeckers Sat 28 November 2009 13:21

A much overdue update of my MM build
 
14 Attachment(s)
Attachment 7338
Start of the "kitchen table" project

Attachment 7339
Actual status to were i got now

Attachment 7340
All the steel and the laser parts

Attachment 7341
Everything was transported IN this car. Shure got funny looks at the steel mill. I took out all the seats to be able to load it. Weight was at the maximum and drove home (30 km) at 60 km/h :D

Attachment 7342
Setup for drilling the steel

Attachment 7343
Table taking shape

Attachment 7344
Getting ready for cutting the rails to height

Attachment 7345
This is the grinder i used. Cost me 55€ and performed very well.Fits well in the scate

Attachment 7346
Preventing the cut from closing up on the grinder at the end of the cutting

Attachment 7347
Needed this after the first rail. :rolleyes: The process is however not difficult and the scate works very well. Guess i was a bit nervous

Attachment 7348
My brand new welder :D It's a 160 Amp AC stick welder, maximum electrode size is 4 mm.

Attachment 7349
Learning how to weld. Well, after everything was "welded" I still cannot weld :(

Attachment 7350
Base of the table taking shape

Attachment 7351
Base finished, rails grinded, Y-wagon and the "monocoque" welded.

Claudiu Sat 28 November 2009 13:34

Hello Bart,

nice pictures and of course good progress with your work.

Curious to see more of your MM.

Have fun
Claus

Gerald D Sat 28 November 2009 14:02

Very good progress Bart!

KenC Sat 28 November 2009 21:39

... you make me feels sluggish....

Great progress! Keep those pix coming!

BartDeckers Sun 29 November 2009 02:36

Thanks everybody,

I had a good week working on the MM. Next is preparing the steel for painting and then the painting itself.

I wrote a reply in the "paint section" about how i will paint my MM. Here is the link :
http://www.mechmate.com/forums/showt...0&postcount=79

Greetings,

Bart

Robert M Sun 29 November 2009 06:16

Bonjour Bart,
Happy to see your back with this nice progress. Will wish you a good time finishing your build, keep those photos in as we will like to see more of it !
Amicalement, Robret ;)

Barman Sun 29 November 2009 06:56

Hey Bart,

Nice work.
May I know where you have ordered the laserparts and did you got a good price?
Transporting the steel was also a problem for me.
Those 2 pieces of UPN 180 , did you transported them in your car?

BartDeckers Sun 29 November 2009 09:37

Hi Bart,

I ordered with VDA-laser. This is a father and son company. I have payed 300 € and the quality and service was excellent. Was a long drive to pick up the goods.

All the steel (not the laser parts) was transported inside my car in one ride. I removed all the seats except for the drivers seat. The weight was just within the maximum allowed :D.

I am still looking for someone with a lathe (draaibank) Where did you order those parts?

Nice signs you made on your MM.

Barman Sun 29 November 2009 12:15

He ,

somebody made it for me at his work .
Unfortunately , this year he went on retirement .

BartDeckers Wed 02 December 2009 11:14

6 Attachment(s)
Attachment 7444
Prepainting corners and welds with a brush

Attachment 7445
After applying full coat with a roller

Attachment 7446
Prepainting table supports

Attachment 7447
Cross beams and corner posts

Attachment 7448
Table supports with full coat primer

Attachment 7449
Cross beams and corner posts

domino11 Wed 02 December 2009 13:11

That primer is a really interesting color. What type of primer is that?

KenC Wed 02 December 2009 20:56

zinc chromate?

domino11 Wed 02 December 2009 20:57

Thats usually Yellow I think. At least up here in Canada.


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