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John Fri 16 March 2007 13:24

Pls check here for stepper motor
www.kelinginc.net

Gerald_D Fri 16 March 2007 13:50

John, which of your stepper motors do you recommend for the MechMate?

Jay Waters Fri 16 March 2007 19:13

Also, would you ever consider putting a recommended Mechmate package together? ie- steppers/servos, drivers, power supply, etc. Just food for thought....

bugmenot dillbert Fri 16 March 2007 19:53

I've already asked...

I was recommended the http://www.kelinginc.net/KL34H295-43-8B.pdf, it has the same holding torque as the vextras in unipolar. And for drivers, surprise surprise, geckos...

Jay Waters Sat 17 March 2007 11:08

Glad to know bugmenot, I'll probably stick with the Vextras anyhow. I feel more comfortable going with something that's already been out there and working.

javeria Thu 11 October 2007 09:09

Goin to order 3pcs KL34H280_60_4A for X and Y and KL34H260-60-4A for Z on the mechmate. This one's gonna be a true mechmate not the one with servos. but with steppers and gecko's 203v and a break out board from CandCNC.com

What say all!

Conrado_Navarro Fri 24 October 2008 19:47

Hi :
I dont know if is correct to ask in this post
Please correct me if Im Wrong

Im planning to use these package (from http://kelinginc.net/CNCNEMA34Package.html) for the MECHMATE, using the steppers direct to the rail

I will apreciatte any coments

2: NEMA 34 Steppper Motors 4 Axis CNC Kit:

A: 4 PCS KL-8078 80V, 7.8A Driver

B: 4 PCS EMA 34-1200 oz-in Stepper Motors

C: 1 PCS KL-7020, 72V/ 20A,Unregulated Power Supply

D:1 PCS C10 Breakout board, E-Stop or Limit Switch can be wired


Thanks

javeria Fri 24 October 2008 22:52

you should be ok - getting a package will save you lot of headache.

Gerald D Fri 24 October 2008 23:19

Conrado, who will give you support if it does not work?

Richards Sat 25 October 2008 06:07

Conrado,

Those are really large stepper motors. Large stepper motors have lots of resonance, meaning that they run rough (hard to tune). Four motors @ 7.8A = 31.2A, so the 20A power supply will not fully meet your needs.

Most CNC router operators prefer a geared (mechanical or belt-driven gearbox/transmission) to reduce the amount of "chatter". I've used both a 3:1 belt-drive and a 7.2:1 mechanical gearbox on my CNC router. Both are vastly superior to running a 1:1 (non-geared) stepper.

If I were you, I would look at a more moderate sized stepper motor that produces between 400 and 600 oz*in holding torque. For the fastest response, pick a motor with a low inductance rating. 1.5mH to 3mH motors are better than motors with a higher inductance rating. Motors with a 1.5mH rating would require a power supply with 40V maximum. (32 X SQRT(inductance)) = MAXIMUM voltage. I would also consider using Gecko stepper drivers (G203v). Finally, if the motors that you select aren't available with a gearbox, I would absolutely build a belt-drive transmission (3:1 or 3.6:1).

Your costs might be about 20% higher for the steppers and the stepper drivers, but you would have something that others have used successfully.

Conrado_Navarro Sat 25 October 2008 10:00

Gerald:
That why I asked for opinions, I`m new to this, but I`m sure that this is the right forum, for taking this great adventure

Mike :
Yeah I saw that answer comig, I read it about it in this forum.
do you know any package like this, that meet your recomendations
or a detailed list to make the combo, with information of the stores.?
I look for it, and saw only recomendation for parts, not the all combo.
may be i need to look fort it harder

domino11 Sat 25 October 2008 10:27

Conrad,
You can get all the items you need from just a few suppliers.

Gecko G203V Stepper Drivers
order from www.geckodrive.com Very good company that stands behind their products.

Oriental Motor PK296a2a-sg7.2 Geared stepper motors

order from oriental motor direct www.orientalmotor.com Great stepper motors

Power Supply parts. Try www.partsexpress.com, they have all the transformers,
capacitors and bridges you will need to do the power supply.

PMDX122 breakout board Order from www.pmdx.com Great guys fast turnaround.

I hope this helps a little.?

Conrado_Navarro Sat 25 October 2008 10:36

not help a little
.
.
.

Help a lot!!!

Thanks guys for your support!!!

domino11 Sat 25 October 2008 19:12

Conrado,
Also start a personal thread and then you can post questions related to your build there and we can add posts there when you have other specific questions. Like power supply voltages and gearing and ..... :)

Conrado_Navarro Mon 27 October 2008 10:39

Ok
IŽll Do That


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